How much p2w/p2ng is this game really?

[Crazy_Brain]

To long time players/whales, how much pay2win/pay2notgrind is this game really?
I got my lvl99 groth event character with a +9 demonic weapon (all on maximize and crit) with the event clothes and I have barely 500CP. how much do I have to grind or pay to get a million Combat power?

[IHateMagic]

hey listen as a new player too who returned a week ago I'm going to give it to you straight.

Game's ridiculously pay2not grind. You could technically pay for some stuff in the cash shop probably liek 50$(there's a purchase limit per month though so prob a bit less) then sell all of it until you get like 5bil and then buy a +10 scroll. This isn't enough to skip meaningful chunk of grind for the game.. Assuming you do that like 7 times or more and pay like 400$ to have enough ED to buy artifacts and a couple more +10s and enough ED to enchant your gear further to skip CP requirements for Story quests past pruanium you could probably do that.

500kCP is pretty good. I take it you're in late Rigomor by that amount.. Getting to 1mil you can get pretty comfortoably without any real grind assuming you take 10 minutes here and there to check if all your items are socketed and wedged, you got the decent cheap accessories and are using all the stuff Pho gave you alongside the force passives you got for free, 70~90 ERP and you reached master class. With the timed(7/14/30 day) stuff from Events and Pho like costumes, accessories and title you can get 1.3m very easily. I'm at 1.5mil easily from that but thats because I got like another 60k here and 60k there from alreadt level the Master Class artifact animal(which you will too in time, in a few days of casual gameplay) and from minmaxing the event wep which I absolutely dont recommend doing wayyyy too much hussle for tiny gain in CP/power just use the Void weapon.

Getting to 1mil without grinding-out ED with just the stuff you get from Pho (+10 Void, 15 reforge +9 Amethyst armour plus the other stuff he gives) and getting some stuff with just a tiny bit of grind -- you can reach to comforterable 1mil permentately(no timed equipment). this is without doing no fatherless "repeat this dungeon +10/20/30/40/50 time for x title/drop/etc" type of grind. Well, 3rd job and master being an exception, since you have to repeat a mission like 5-7 times for both of those but it ain't too bad and I'm assuming you already did those so :p

Small point regarding the "demon" wep you got. Assuming you got the demon weapon you're going to need to learn how to enchant it with mystics and make it perfect to be sligghtly better than your Void weapon. My advice is you ignore the FoJ unless you already upgraded it to VoS through the event -- even if you did get VoS wait until you can comfortably CAP it in stats because only a perfectly upgraded VoS +9 is a BIT stronger than your already received perfect Void +10 and it's a big pain to upgrade for basically no gain for you right now. Assuming you got no VoS and have FoJ then even less of a reason.

I'll go back to my prev point. Once you can sit on perm gear for 950k~1m, which is not grindy to get(with 100 ERP, which doesn't really require grind) then this is the sweet spot to stop trying to progress forward in the regions on your main... This amount of CP is enough for you to play all the dungeons till Pruanium and with some effort solo the early dungeon of Pruanium, do Master Roads on normal SOMEWHAT comfortably alone and from experience you can beat HELL mode MAster road fights like Rosso and Gaia after a tiny of boss learning(this isn't what i'd cnsider a grind; its one of the most fun parts of the game for me) possibly the others too it's just that I cant say for sure because I haven't attempted to learn them on Hell yet myself. Anyway, anything past that like actualy Pruanium normal-mode raids don't bother. Enjoy that characters midgame(like I said all content till pruanium) and enjoy the story(hopefully you enjoy lore/story) and enjoy leveling other characters, like just casually play campaign for new characters then user their EP to buy another char slot and choose another character you like while also working on your El Search Party collection which gives all your chars on your ACC more stats -> gradually more CP to main. So playing characters up to Pruanium isn't grindy at all. They actually did a really good job streamlining the quests so up until Elri u dont repeat stages mroe than once and rarely twice and even later till Prua theres not much repetition -- kudos to them on that, which was part of the QoL update.

To make stuff after Pruanium not look like utter grinds, I'd only try to push further after you're done building up your El Search Party collection -- after you're done playing most of the characters(try Laby, she gets her own region and story and it's honestly great; hopefully you like the lore/VA work in this game as well).



For summary if you're okay playing everything up to Pruanium and find the idea of playing a bunch of other chars to 99 fun because that also helps all your chars by giving everyone it's own unique stat bonus in the El Search Party collection(of which bonus add up as well as affect all your chars CP so including main) unles you consider that an unfun grind then rip, otherwise you got stuff you can do till pruanium on your mains and chars to level and once you're done with that you can probably go to Tirnog with all the CP you got from a now huge big El Search Party collection -- at that point you might hit a grind wall after and I have no way around that but until then..

[Felix Argyle]

Originally posted by Crazy_Brain:

To long time players/whales, how much pay2win/pay2notgrind is this game really?
I got my lvl99 groth event character with a +9 demonic weapon (all on maximize and crit) with the event clothes and I have barely 500CP. how much do I have to grind or pay to get a million Combat power?

its possible to free2play with 1 or 2 characters. Anymore than that and you will have to cough up some money. I fund 8 characters.
11+ is 10b each an ice burner set that is meta will cost around 5b to 8b per character.

Then there's artifacts with good effects per character that will also cost you a lot depending on how competitive you wanna be in pve. 10% crit damage ring are 5b to 7b each 12%crit and maxi circlet are around 1b to 1.5b each 24% red damage armor 1.5b to 2b each 16% master skill damage 1b to 1.5b each.

Theres more factors like reforging chlorite seeds and 11+ scrolls on your armor+ the new area system you gotta invest ed in per character with new armor WHICH WILL COST YOU billions of ed.

I invest a lot into cosmetics but I have spent over $10,000 on this game and because of the everchanging landscape of different armor and weapon systems I do nyot have the best gear on all 8 characters(presently).

[G]

damn i remember being ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ rich in this game before the sea server closed 100b gone to drain

[Felix Argyle]

Originally posted by G:

damn i remember being ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ rich in this game before the sea server closed 100b gone to drain

100b is nothing now because somebody offered 100b for a 12+ scroll they raised money cap so a 100b wont even get you 13+ 11+ scrolls are 13b so yea and I spent around 70b on last 2 rotations cuz of they released another expensive accessory meta ib and evil tracer 2 came back during the rotation jumping the prrice to 10b each evil tracer 2 6b each dream auto necklace 2b per dream weapon plus ib accessories. The reason they removed the indo & Argentina people was because people were using a vpn bug to get more kching by pretending they are indo or Argentina and getting rich which they still do on EU cuz EU allows VPN and VM NA doesnt