Terrible FPS on Paris mission.

[mr sweet sixteen]

Whats up with the disgusting FPS on the Paris mission? I've updated my drivers (AMD) and I can run others games on ULTRA at 80fps (The Witcher 3, Fallout 4, even the worst optimized game LiF: YO). What gives? I bought this game and want to have a fun experiance but so far it's disapointing due to the optimiztion. Please fix the optimiztion, you had all this time to do it Mr. "2 tutorial missions and 1 main mission".

[ponyeater]

I'm with Wstr. I am running dx12 ultra 80-111fps with drops to 30/40fps(in certain rooms lol) or steady 60fps with vsync at 1. My game play is smooth and detailed, except for 1 hallway on the training boat where dx12 freezes ( which I am sure they'll fix when they do). After the game updated today I still would agree it needs more optimization but it seems like they're working on it...

[Pvt. Stash]

ponyeater님이 먼저 게시:

I'm with Wstr. I am running dx12 ultra 80-111fps with drops to 30/40fps(in certain rooms lol) or steady 60fps with vsync at 1. My game play is smooth and detailed, except for 1 hallway on the training boat where dx12 freezes ( which I am sure they'll fix when they do). After the game updated today I still would agree it needs more optimization but it seems like they're working on it...

You're spot on. Most of the people complaining about things like this just don't understand that games and CPU are not equal. Ultra with one chipset on Game A may run at 60 fps where High on Game B may not.

Too many people think thier systems are more than they are and forget to run the built in benchmark tools (when available) to optimize for thier own hardware.

[The Running Man]

im using dx11...if i use dx12 will my performance improve?

[Mars]

Charlemagne King of Franks님이 먼저 게시:

im using dx11...if i use dx12 will my performance improve?

Not necessarily, since DX12 is still in the experimental stages with this game. For me, I experienced texture glitches that went away when I switched to DX11.

[Supahz]

Wstr님이 먼저 게시:

Thomas님이 먼저 게시:

I've played much bigger games that looked nicer and yet this runs like an garbage. I shouldn't have expected different from an AAA company because it's just the standard to release games that aren't even fixed I guess.

And what are your pc specs and resolution you're playing at? Because this game runs wonderfully on mid-high end AMD GPU's in DX12 so if you can really play Witcher 3 on ultra at 60+ then there's probably something wrong with your PC. Or you're lying. To play Witcher 3 on Ultra and have around 60 fps average you need at least a Gtx 970 or r9 290 and 290 should run Hitman on ultra np.

This game is optimised for AMD so it runs great on their HW, A LOT better than on Nvidia's.

Turn off SSAA (that means put Super Sampling to default 1). Most ppl don't even know what it is and how fps hungry it is so they max it and then whine and cry "Why oh why". ;)

+1 Every time I read "I can run every game at max settings and blah blah blah" but they don't provide details says to me "I don't really understand my system, optimization, or how this all works, but I'm going to complain about it anyway".

Or it's just lying. Which I don't get, because it's not like anyone's going to respect you because your system can pull off max settings on Fallout 4. Trying to impress people you don't know... pffft.

All that said, I'm enjoying the game so far with no issues... got a free code with my purchase of an R9 390 (which I suppose explains my experience so far).

[madsh959]

Mithril님이 먼저 게시:

What you say.. bad FPS?.. and another such game protected by Denuvo... but suuure,, Denuvo is not to blame... not at all.. it is all an imagination... move along now.

I have played a load of Denuvo games and never had any performance issues with any of them. Well except for hitman, I do get a very inconsistent performance in hitman, but im sure that has nothing to do with Denuvo.

[mr sweet sixteen]

To reply, I have a R9 280x overclocked, I have the 16.3 drivers but maybe a fresh reinstall of them might help. When I updated my drivers I didn't see an up in FPS. I tried turning my settings down to the bare minimum res and settings. Didn't see a difference in FPS wise.

I don't know why anyone would lie about why they can run a certain game a certain way, that wouldn't make sense, but if I can run say games A,B,C,D,E,F, and G properly without any problems and they're all new triple A games, then why would triple A game 'H' have an exception to run like ♥♥♥♥. I do not understand. The training missions have a solid 70 fps with some drops on med-high settings but paris is a ♥♥♥♥♥ to run.

I am using Dx12, will be reinstalling 16.3 for AMD and might try to see if there is a performance difference with Dx11.

I don't know who brought up Denuvo protection being the problem. I am just wondering why the game is so unoptimized.

[Mars]

Ah, okay. My 16.3 refused to complete the install when I put them over top of my old drivers, so I uninstalled, restarted, then installed cleanly, restarted, and my frames were over-the-hills better on Paris. I was baffled, really. It went from unplayable to perfect. This is on DX11, since DX12 gave me screwed-up textures.

[V.4.7™]

Thomas님이 먼저 게시:

To reply, I have a R9 280x overclocked, I have the 16.3 drivers but maybe a fresh reinstall of them might help. When I updated my drivers I didn't see an up in FPS. I tried turning my settings down to the bare minimum res and settings. Didn't see a difference in FPS wise.

I don't know why anyone would lie about why they can run a certain game a certain way, that wouldn't make sense, but if I can run say games A,B,C,D,E,F, and G properly without any problems and they're all new triple A games, then why would triple A game 'H' have an exception to run like ♥♥♥♥. I do not understand. The training missions have a solid 70 fps with some drops on med-high settings but paris is a ♥♥♥♥♥ to run.

I am using Dx12, will be reinstalling 16.3 for AMD and might try to see if there is a performance difference with Dx11.

I don't know who brought up Denuvo protection being the problem. I am just wondering why the game is so unoptimized.

I 100% agree with you.

I played AAA game on high-med settings with stable 50-60fps. Why this game running like ♥♥♥♥ is beyond my understanding. Currently i used 16.3 driver as well, and i certainly tired of uninstalling and installing 16.3 for the 4th time.

The 16.3 patch indeed help increasing my framerate, but there are areas where fps still drops no matter what i do. If AMD has already released the patch to help people and it didn't work, then perhaps the faults lies within developer's territory.

[Wstr]

Thomas님이 먼저 게시:

To reply, I have a R9 280x overclocked, I have the 16.3 drivers but maybe a fresh reinstall of them might help. When I updated my drivers I didn't see an up in FPS. I tried turning my settings down to the bare minimum res and settings. Didn't see a difference in FPS wise.

I don't know why anyone would lie about why they can run a certain game a certain way, that wouldn't make sense, but if I can run say games A,B,C,D,E,F, and G properly without any problems and they're all new triple A games, then why would triple A game 'H' have an exception to run like ♥♥♥♥. I do not understand. The training missions have a solid 70 fps with some drops on med-high settings but paris is a ♥♥♥♥♥ to run.

I am using Dx12, will be reinstalling 16.3 for AMD and might try to see if there is a performance difference with Dx11.

I don't know who brought up Denuvo protection being the problem. I am just wondering why the game is so unoptimized.

Well, now that we know what GPU you have, it's all clear. 280x is a good GPU just not enough i guess.
You definitely can't run Witcher 3 on ultra at 1080p 60fps with that. I know because i owned that GPU when Witcher 3 came out and i ran it at 50fps average on oc-ed 280x on high. ;)

So here are Hitman benches: http://www.pcgameshardware.de/Hitman-Spiel-6333/Specials/DirectX-12-Benchmark-Test-1188758/

As you can see you card pulls off 40fps average on Ultra. There are surely more patches coming in but until then you just have to cope with what you got.

Also, Hitman is pretty CPU heavy especially when there's a lot of ppl on screen and there can be A LOT of them.

Reinstalling Crimson might help tho, you never know. That's pretty much the only thing you could try.

[PcPAirgun]

Don't use DX12 at the Moment.

[Wstr]

PcPAirgun님이 먼저 게시:

Don't use DX12 at the Moment.

That applies mostly to Nvidia users. AMD users with GCN GPU's see an fps boost in DX12 while Nvidia GPU's see fps drop in DX12 because their GPU's have no async suppport and this game is async heavy.

[borg_7_of_9]

what AMD hardware? what motherboard n CPU sure i get 30FPS min on ultra DX12 but CFX is broken my CPU is an I7 2700K @4.3G 16G ram, your complaining but not telling us your spec's for all we know you have 2 HD 7870's and an AMD PIIx6 t1100 - Hell I can run Metro 2033 @max with older hardware but CFX works with metro so 2 HD4890's in CFX don't do bad yeah it has the od dip bit it was playable..

Don't jump up n' down without telling us what hardware you are using - it could be a core 2 Exxx SPEC's ppl post them for Christ sake...

[PcPAirgun]

Wstr님이 먼저 게시:

PcPAirgun님이 먼저 게시:

Don't use DX12 at the Moment.

That applies mostly to Nvidia users. AMD users with GCN GPU's see an fps boost in DX12 while Nvidia GPU's see fps drop in DX12 because their GPU's have no async suppport and this game is async heavy.

Partly right. DX12 also gave me an FPS Boost, but unexpected Crashes happen also. Until it gets "fixed" my 970 is playing fine on DX11.

[borg_7_of_9]

@Wstr id hardly call Hitman CPU heavy it just manages 30% usage on my I7 2600K @ 4.3G, too me heavy is 70% useage IE: Metro 2033 on an OLD Intel QX9650 3G CPU clocked @ 3.6G with 2x HD4890s in CFX or now a GTS750Ti and I have tested both as That is my old rig before the GTS750 was put in..Id be happy to test Hitman on it to prove my point that hitman is not CPU intensive by today's standards..

Note: A lack of ram could push cpu usage higher due to having to swap stuff in and out. hitman does say recommended 8G I have 16G on my main gamer I havent looked at ram usage in game but it could be a factor

edit:: just did a quick memory test and its hitting 8G easy ill do a more in-depth test to see how much is being used.. Win 10 x64 pro 16G ram DX12 Hitman Ultra Settings HD7970 1G clock with 3G DDR5 @1700Mhz = 6.8G effective..