What happened to IOI?

[Skull kid]

If l remember correctly, they used to sell all the episodes individually, but now they only sell them in a bundle that includes a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ costume pack for 13€!?

This is arguably even worse than EA standards......

What happened to you, IOI? First you ditched Jesper Kyd, then you tried to ditch David Bateson, then you did Absolution and now this!?

[Mike]

Well they finally wrapped up the season and now all of the content is available so they just included all of the episodes. I mean anyone can try the game out free to see if they like it or not but at this point theres no reason to sell them separatly because it the full game now.

Also if they do have a season 2 they will most likely go back to the episodic releases.

Are you really comparing this to EA

[knighttime]

now this? this is a great game. did kyd quit or did IO not want him?

[Skull kid]

The Don Killuminati の投稿を引用：

Are you really comparing this to EA

Did you read what l wrote about the costume pack?
Simple math: 7 episodes 7€ each + 10€ for an extra mission/campaign + 13€ for a costume pack = 72€ which is the price of the bundle.

That's 13€ for meaningless esthetics you're forced to pay for. So yes, l compare this to EA. And l don't buy the argument that they could make the game cost 13€ more and include the costumes for free, because that's overpriced. Without the costume pack (59€) but with the bundle reduction (-20%) it should cost 47€ (lol, every new Hitman game should cost that much :p)

knighttime の投稿を引用：

now this? this is a great game. did kyd quit or did IO not want him?

Jesper Kyd is freelance, but IOI never contacted him for the production of Absolution. I just got a new gfx, the old one was broken and couldn't play Hitman. And now l wanted to download the game to try, l saw this.

[Mike]

So your just mad that costumes are bundled with the game? As far as I'm concered this game is far from EA standards because there is no P2W aspects and I get everything when I buy the game, no loot boxes, no important DLC lock behind DLC, and no ther bs.

If its too much for your taste then wait for a price drop, Jeez consumers are just really dumb and impatient sometimes

Or better yet don't buy it at all since the game is sooo "anti-consumer"

[Skull kid]

No, l'm annoyed because the bundled costume pack costs 13€ and you HAVE to buy it if you want the rest of the game. At least EA gives you the option not to buy add-ons...

The costume pack is just pure esthetics that really should be for free in this kind of game where you disguise yourself on a regular basis.

The full game costs 49€. That's a good price. Then they add Patient zero for 10€ for a total of 59€, which, once again, is a good price and fully acceptable to be included in the game.


TL;DR: Drop the unnecessary costume pack from the bundle and let us buy only the core game.

[Mike]

Skull kid の投稿を引用：

No, l'm annoyed because the bundled costume pack costs 13€ and you HAVE to buy it if you want the rest of the game. At least EA gives you the option not to buy add-ons...

The costume pack is just pure esthetics that really should be for free in this kind of game where you disguise yourself on a regular basis.

The full game costs 49€. That's a good price. Then they add Patient zero for 10€ for a total of 59€, which, once again, is a good price and fully acceptable to be included in the game.


TL;DR: Drop the unnecessary costume pack from the bundle and let us buy only the core game.

Well, I guess your only choice is to wait until it is either unbunbdled or a price drop on the base game. Imo the game is well worth the money because it is one of my favorite Hitman games to date and it has almost limitless replayability.

[Duckilous]

I'm pretty sure they had to make one of the latest DLC to cost higher than the another in order to make that $20 price tag for the "GOTY Upgrade" for existing players due to how Steam Bundles work.

Skull kid の投稿を引用：

At least EA gives you the option not to buy add-ons...

At least IO doesn't forces me to buy loot boxes with a slight chance of able to progress.

The costume pack is just pure esthetics that really should be for free in this kind of game where you disguise yourself on a regular basis.

The costume pack actually comes with new escalations and weapons that matches the new outfits; one is a bat, the second is a sniper rifle with better zoom and the third is a powerful pistol that can knockback people hard.

The full game costs 49€. That's a good price. Then they add Patient zero for 10€ for a total of 59€, which, once again, is a good price and fully acceptable to be included in the game.

I thought the game always costs $60 (or similiar depending on your currency) like a typical AAA game before they repackaged into "GOTY" edition.

[Seigneur Voland]

I used to be a fan of this serie, starting 15 years ago with SA, but so far i have not bought this 6th adventure of 47.

Absolution was pathetic, so i've been cautious and waited. Now squenix is out, the format and gameplay are apparently back to normal, excellent news. But this solo game can still not be played offline entirely for example, for the dumbest reasons possible.

The game is a failure. To get customers back, IO has found nothing better than continuing this timed content ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥, or trying to sell 3 meshes and 3 textures for 12 bucks. This will certainly interest the 600-800 players on average, and some old pros who go from time to time through this dead forum.

So what happened to IO is that they just wanted to eat bigger than they could, but at the end, it's them who got busted. And given how they screwed this awesome licence, i can not say that i'm not happy about it.

[Mike]

Seigneur Voland の投稿を引用：

I used to be a fan of this serie, starting 15 years ago with SA, but so far i have not bought this 6th adventure of 47.

Absolution was pathetic, so i've been cautious and waited. Now squenix is out, the format and gameplay are apparently back to normal, excellent news. But this solo game can still not be played offline entirely for example, for the dumbest reasons possible.

The game is a failure. To get customers back, IO has found nothing better than continuing this timed content ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥, or trying to sell 3 meshes and 3 textures for 12 bucks. This will certainly interest the 600-800 players on average, and some old pros who go from time to time through this dead forum.

So what happened to IO is that they just wanted to eat bigger than they could, but at the end, it's them who got busted. And given how they screwed this awesome licence, i can not say that i'm not happy about it.

If you haven't even played the recent Hitman your self (you can try it free btw) how can you even argue that "they screwed this awesome licence"? The game itself stays so true to the core of Hitman that I would argue that it is one of the best Hitman games in recent years (and yes better than Bloodmoney because that game is too dated imo).

Does the game have its issues? Of course, but they by no means killed the license with this game. Hell, I would even argue that they prevented that because of how bad Absolution was recieved by the hardcore fans.

I was one of the early adopters of the new episodic Hitman and at the beginning I was also dissapotinted by how the content was handled but after coming back to all of the levels that were added it has become an excellent Hitman package.

My issues with the game boil down to poor optimization on some levels and the "only online" nature but the core gameplay is excellent and has provided many memorable moments that games like Bloodmoney provided.

I also can't stand the "steam says that there are only #-# players therefor it is dead and it failed" arguemnt especially when your talking about a mainly single player experience that has been out for more than a year.

[halfmonkey]

I'm jumping in here, not to join the conversation, but to say FOR THE LAST TIME: IOI never "fired" or got rid of Jesper Kyd!

Square Enix has an in-house audio department and IOI was CONTRACTUALLY OBLIGATED to use said service. It had absolutely nothing to do with "choice."

The chances of Kyd returning are slim-to-none however, unless you're willing to wait another couple years for the next installment.

[Connobar]

Who is Jesper Kyd and why does he matter?

[Duckilous]

Connobar の投稿を引用：

Who is Jesper Kyd and why does he matter?

He's a amazing composer who made the soundtrack for the first four Hitman games.
Take a listen to some of his tracks:
https://youtu.be/tUSJ4z2jqSo
https://youtu.be/l3si8jkva_U
https://youtu.be/yBazgcmSQXI
https://youtu.be/958OBRLyuko
and compare it to the soundtrack we got for the latest HITMAN:
https://youtu.be/cPiEIk9la9Y

[Connobar]

Ok cool, so we are boycotting because the music isn't as good?

[Duckilous]

Connobar の投稿を引用：

Ok cool, so we are boycotting because the music isn't as good?

Uh no? We boycotting no one, it's just that this thread is silly because OP is angry and thinks IO is worse than EA.

I mean if you think a company that sells an "overpriced" DLC even though it can only be bought on a bundle anyway is worse than a company that sells loot boxes or microtransactions then you gotta be a moron if you really think so.
I already said that one of the DLCs' prices was raised probably due to how Steam Bundles work - because Bundles puts a discount.

[Connobar]

Hoovyspenser の投稿を引用：

Connobar の投稿を引用：

Ok cool, so we are boycotting because the music isn't as good?

Uh no? We boycotting no one, it's just that this thread is silly because OP is angry and thinks IO is worse than EA.

I mean if you think a company that sells an "overpriced" DLC even though it can only be bought on a bundle anyway is worse than a company that sells loot boxes or microtransactions then you gotta be a moron if you really think so.
I already said that one of the DLCs' prices was raised probably due to how Steam Bundles work - because Bundles puts a discount.

Yeah, most of these threads are silly. Between this and battlefront 2, I keep checking in just to see what the new issue of the day is with Hitman. My favorites are the people who do not own or have played under an hour complaining about the price of dlc. Just seems silly to me to buy a full price game, not play it then complain about greedy companies wasting their money, when truth it they are wasting it themselves. I'm just as guilty to buy a game and not play it right away, but I really can't complain unless i experience the issues myself.

I haven't bought the DLC yet since I'm still playing through the season and challenges, but it doesn't really seem that bad for 20$. I've paid more for less in life.