The game crashes out of nowhere

[Yüksel]

I play eu4 on MacOS, but when I select a country in HRE, the game always crashes on the same date after 3-4 years, for example, if my saved game crashes on December 18, 1447, no matter how much I exit and enter, or even if I play the game in 2x instead of 5x, it still crashes specifically on December 18, 1447, and this is very annoying or if it crashes on July 5, 1448 in another save, that saved game file always crashes on that date, but this only happens when playing in the HRE. Crashes also occur when playing with other countries, but every 50-60 years and when they re-enter the game, it does not crash specifically on the same date

My pc
-Macbook Air M1 (2020)
-8B Ram
-256gb ssd
-latest version of macOs
-latest version of steam and game

mods i use
-Theatrum Orbis Terrarum for 1.30+
-UI a La artemis

[grotaclas]

Can you post the exception.txt from the crash? It is probably one of the known crashes on macOS

[Yüksel]

Originally posted by grotaclas:

Can you post the exception.txt from the crash? It is probably one of the known crashes on macOS

How do I send it? Can you be a little more specific?

[grotaclas]

You can just open the exception.txt with a text editor and copy&paste its contents into the forum reply. Each crash creates a folder in "Documents/Paradox Interactive/Europa Universalis IV/crashes" and the exception.txt is in that folder

[Yüksel]

Originally posted by grotaclas:

You can just open the exception.txt with a text editor and copy&paste its contents into the forum reply. Each crash creates a folder in "Documents/Paradox Interactive/Europa Universalis IV/crashes" and the exception.txt is in that folder

i dont understand anything btw

Application: EUIV
Version: EU4 v1.37.4.0 Inca
Date/Time: 2024-10-01 22:38:27

Caught signal 11 (SIGSEGV)

Original Stack Trace:
2 libsystem_malloc.dylib 0x00007ff80b0ee4b1 free_tiny + 526
3 eu4 0x0000000100665f08 _ZN10CGameState10ChangeTagsER11CCountryTagS1_ + 2508
4 eu4 0x000000010052b004 _ZNK16CChangeTagEffect7ExecuteER11CEventScopei + 178
5 eu4 0x000000010051258c _ZNK7CEffect7ExecuteER11CEventScopei + 92
6 eu4 0x00000001003a3fdd _ZNK23CExecuteDecisionCommand7ExecuteEv + 2349
7 eu4 0x000000010141f1e9 _ZNSt3__110__function6__funcIZL18ExecuteWithPaddingRK8CCommandE3$_1NS_9allocatorIS5_EEFvvEEclEv + 157
8 eu4 0x000000010143b98f _ZL16CallstackPaddingRKNSt3__18functionIFvvEEEj + 47
9 eu4 0x000000010143b94e _ZN10CRandomLog16CallstackPaddingERKNSt3__18functionIFvvEEE + 46
10 eu4 0x000000010141c453 _ZN8CSession15ProcessCommandsEv + 577
11 eu4 0x000000010141bba4 _ZN8CSession6UpdateEv + 328
12 eu4 0x0000000100157ea9 _ZN15CEU4Application6UpdateEv + 109
13 eu4 0x0000000100708dc7 _ZN12CInGameIdler4IdleEb + 1683
14 eu4 0x00000001013ca330 _ZN12CApplication14UpdateOneFrameEb + 288
15 eu4 0x00000001013ca7da _ZN12CApplication3RunEv + 48
16 eu4 0x0000000100755b73 main + 10441
17 dyld 0x0000000202ed92cd start + 1805

Demangled Stack Trace:
2 libsystem_malloc.dylib 0x00007ff80b0ee4b1 free_tiny + 526
3 eu4 0x0000000100665f08 CGameState::ChangeTags(CCountryTag&, CCountryTag&) + 2508
4 eu4 0x000000010052b004 CChangeTagEffect::Execute(CEventScope&, int) const + 178
5 eu4 0x000000010051258c CEffect::Execute(CEventScope&, int) const + 92
6 eu4 0x00000001003a3fdd CExecuteDecisionCommand::Execute() const + 2349
7 eu4 0x000000010141f1e9 std::__1::__function::__func<ExecuteWithPadding(CCommand const&)::$_1, std::__1::allocator<ExecuteWithPadding(CCommand const&)::$_1>, void ()>::operator()() + 157
8 eu4 0x000000010143b98f CallstackPadding(std::__1::function<void ()> const&, unsigned int) + 47
9 eu4 0x000000010143b94e CRandomLog::CallstackPadding(std::__1::function<void ()> const&) + 46
10 eu4 0x000000010141c453 CSession::ProcessCommands() + 577
11 eu4 0x000000010141bba4 CSession::Update() + 328
12 eu4 0x0000000100157ea9 CEU4Application::Update() + 109
13 eu4 0x0000000100708dc7 CInGameIdler::Idle(bool) + 1683
14 eu4 0x00000001013ca330 CApplication::UpdateOneFrame(bool) + 288
15 eu4 0x00000001013ca7da CApplication::Run() + 48
16 eu4 0x0000000100755b73 main + 10441
17 dyld 0x0000000202ed92cd start + 1805

[grotaclas]

Originally posted by Yüksel:

Demangled Stack Trace:
2 libsystem_malloc.dylib 0x00007ff80b0ee4b1 free_tiny + 526
3 eu4 0x0000000100665f08 CGameState::ChangeTags(CCountryTag&, CCountryTag&) + 2508
4 eu4 0x000000010052b004 CChangeTagEffect::Execute(CEventScope&, int) const + 178
5 eu4 0x000000010051258c CEffect::Execute(CEventScope&, int) const + 92
6 eu4 0x00000001003a3fdd CExecuteDecisionCommand::Execute() const + 2349

Your game is crashing when a country enacts a decision which changes the tag. Crashes when changing the tag are the most common crashes on macOS in recent versions. These crashes have been reported since at least version 1.36, but so far they have not been fixed

[Yüksel]

Originally posted by grotaclas:

Originally posted by Yüksel:

Demangled Stack Trace:
2 libsystem_malloc.dylib 0x00007ff80b0ee4b1 free_tiny + 526
3 eu4 0x0000000100665f08 CGameState::ChangeTags(CCountryTag&, CCountryTag&) + 2508
4 eu4 0x000000010052b004 CChangeTagEffect::Execute(CEventScope&, int) const + 178
5 eu4 0x000000010051258c CEffect::Execute(CEventScope&, int) const + 92
6 eu4 0x00000001003a3fdd CExecuteDecisionCommand::Execute() const + 2349

Your game is crashing when a country enacts a decision which changes the tag. Crashes when changing the tag are the most common crashes on macOS in recent versions. These crashes have been reported since at least version 1.36, but so far they have not been fixed

If the game crashes due to the tag change of the countries, why doesn't the game crash on a specific date when I'm playing outside of the HRE? I mean, I don't understand why it crashes in the HRE.

[grotaclas]

Originally posted by Yüksel:

If the game crashes due to the tag change of the countries, why doesn't the game crash on a specific date when I'm playing outside of the HRE? I mean, I don't understand why it crashes in the HRE.

I think that it is a coincidence that it crashes for you while you play in the HRE. The crash has some random element. That's why you can often reload to get past the date of the crash. The "Caught signal 11 (SIGSEGV)" means that eu4 crashed, because it tried to access memory which it should not access(segmentation fault). If there is some other part of eu4 at that place, it won't crash(or at least not immediately).

[Yüksel]

Originally posted by grotaclas:

Originally posted by Yüksel:

If the game crashes due to the tag change of the countries, why doesn't the game crash on a specific date when I'm playing outside of the HRE? I mean, I don't understand why it crashes in the HRE.

I think that it is a coincidence that it crashes for you while you play in the HRE. The crash has some random element. That's why you can often reload to get past the date of the crash. The "Caught signal 11 (SIGSEGV)" means that eu4 crashed, because it tried to access memory which it should not access(segmentation fault). If there is some other part of eu4 at that place, it won't crash(or at least not immediately).

So what should i do in this situation?

[Yüksel]

Originally posted by grotaclas:

Originally posted by Yüksel:

If the game crashes due to the tag change of the countries, why doesn't the game crash on a specific date when I'm playing outside of the HRE? I mean, I don't understand why it crashes in the HRE.

I think that it is a coincidence that it crashes for you while you play in the HRE. The crash has some random element. That's why you can often reload to get past the date of the crash. The "Caught signal 11 (SIGSEGV)" means that eu4 crashed, because it tried to access memory which it should not access(segmentation fault). If there is some other part of eu4 at that place, it won't crash(or at least not immediately).

it crashed 6 times on the same date im really angry rn

Application: EUIV
Version: EU4 v1.37.4.0 Inca
Date/Time: 2024-10-05 15:26:18

Caught signal 11 (SIGSEGV)

Original Stack Trace:
2 ??? 0x0000000000000000 0x0 + 0
3 eu4 0x0000000100665f08 _ZN10CGameState10ChangeTagsER11CCountryTagS1_ + 2508
4 eu4 0x000000010052b004 _ZNK16CChangeTagEffect7ExecuteER11CEventScopei + 178
5 eu4 0x000000010051258c _ZNK7CEffect7ExecuteER11CEventScopei + 92
6 eu4 0x00000001003a3fdd _ZNK23CExecuteDecisionCommand7ExecuteEv + 2349
7 eu4 0x000000010141f1e9 _ZNSt3__110__function6__funcIZL18ExecuteWithPaddingRK8CCommandE3$_1NS_9allocatorIS5_EEFvvEEclEv + 157
8 eu4 0x000000010143b98f _ZL16CallstackPaddingRKNSt3__18functionIFvvEEEj + 47
9 eu4 0x000000010143b94e _ZN10CRandomLog16CallstackPaddingERKNSt3__18functionIFvvEEE + 46
10 eu4 0x000000010141c453 _ZN8CSession15ProcessCommandsEv + 577
11 eu4 0x000000010141bba4 _ZN8CSession6UpdateEv + 328
12 eu4 0x0000000100157ea9 _ZN15CEU4Application6UpdateEv + 109
13 eu4 0x0000000100708dc7 _ZN12CInGameIdler4IdleEb + 1683
14 eu4 0x00000001013ca330 _ZN12CApplication14UpdateOneFrameEb + 288
15 eu4 0x00000001013ca7da _ZN12CApplication3RunEv + 48
16 eu4 0x0000000100755b73 main + 10441
17 dyld 0x000000020309a2cd start + 1805

Demangled Stack Trace:
2 ??? 0x0000000000000000 0x0 + 0
3 eu4 0x0000000100665f08 CGameState::ChangeTags(CCountryTag&, CCountryTag&) + 2508
4 eu4 0x000000010052b004 CChangeTagEffect::Execute(CEventScope&, int) const + 178
5 eu4 0x000000010051258c CEffect::Execute(CEventScope&, int) const + 92
6 eu4 0x00000001003a3fdd CExecuteDecisionCommand::Execute() const + 2349
7 eu4 0x000000010141f1e9 std::__1::__function::__func<ExecuteWithPadding(CCommand const&)::$_1, std::__1::allocator<ExecuteWithPadding(CCommand const&)::$_1>, void ()>::operator()() + 157
8 eu4 0x000000010143b98f CallstackPadding(std::__1::function<void ()> const&, unsigned int) + 47
9 eu4 0x000000010143b94e CRandomLog::CallstackPadding(std::__1::function<void ()> const&) + 46
10 eu4 0x000000010141c453 CSession::ProcessCommands() + 577
11 eu4 0x000000010141bba4 CSession::Update() + 328
12 eu4 0x0000000100157ea9 CEU4Application::Update() + 109
13 eu4 0x0000000100708dc7 CInGameIdler::Idle(bool) + 1683
14 eu4 0x00000001013ca330 CApplication::UpdateOneFrame(bool) + 288
15 eu4 0x00000001013ca7da CApplication::Run() + 48
16 eu4 0x0000000100755b73 main + 10441
17 dyld 0x000000020309a2cd start + 1805

[grotaclas]

You could try to run the windows version of the game with the whisky app like the following forum comment suggested:
https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/threads/game-crashing.1706837/post-29919187

Please let me know if that helps, because the person who suggested it didn't seem to have tried it with a crashing save

[Neverwinter]

Same here. Mentioned fixes don't work. Problem started after latest update to the game.

Macbook Air 2024 M3
16GB
Latest version of OS and latest version of Steam and game.
No mods
Plenty of space on SSD.

[Yüksel]

Originally posted by Neverwinter:

Same here. Mentioned fixes don't work. Problem started after latest update to the game.

Macbook Air 2024 M3
16GB
Latest version of OS and latest version of Steam and game.
No mods
Plenty of space on SSD.

It crashed even when I was playing with France outside of HRE. I got really angry this morning. I saw that there was an update for macOS. I updated it. After the update, I played for 50 years and only crashed once

[grotaclas]

Originally posted by Neverwinter:

Same here. Mentioned fixes don't work. Problem started after latest update to the game.

Macbook Air 2024 M3
16GB
Latest version of OS and latest version of Steam and game.
No mods
Plenty of space on SSD.

Have you tried to run the windows version of the game on macOS with the whisky app? If that doesn't work, can you post the exception.txt from that crash?