Warside Vs Advance Wars

[Gordon Freeman]

Hi Guys,

Isn't this an almost 1:1 of Advance Wars? Is this the same devs and if not will they get sued and the game pulled. I dunno?

[Big Convoy]

Originally posted by Gordon Freeman:

Isn't this an almost 1:1 of Advance Wars?

It's not. There are different characters with different abilities. There are also different units like the Sniper and the Rhino, which were not in Advance Wars.

Originally posted by Gordon Freeman:

Is this the same devs and if not will they get sued and the game pulled. I dunno?

This game is made by a different developer, and is slated to also be released on the Switch, PS4, PS5, Xbox One. If there were some issue, Nintendo would not have allowed it to be added to the released.

While similar, the game is different enough that the dev can't be sued since a grid-based tactical combat game is too generic a mechanic, and has been used in plenty of games other than Advance Wars

[MRM]

Originally posted by Big Convoy:

Originally posted by Gordon Freeman:

Isn't this an almost 1:1 of Advance Wars?

It's not. There are different characters with different abilities. There are also different units like the Sniper and the Rhino, which were not in Advance Wars.

Originally posted by Gordon Freeman:

Is this the same devs and if not will they get sued and the game pulled. I dunno?

This game is made by a different developer, and is slated to also be released on the Switch, PS4, PS5, Xbox One. If there were some issue, Nintendo would not have allowed it to be added to the released.

While similar, the game is different enough that the dev can't be sued since a grid-based tactical combat game is too generic a mechanic, and has been used in plenty of games other than Advance Wars

nintendo sues more then enough companies where stuff is close to theirs xd

[Taisetsu na Miko]

Saying it's just a grid based tactical system is like saying Wargroove is the same as Fire Emblem or Final Fantasy Tactics is the same as Fire Emblem. There is a specific formula of mechanics that makes Advance Wars special and Warside is the closest in faithfulness, but considering how many games already did the same mechanics before them, including the same type of setting as well, I think they should not encounter any trouble.

As for what the formula is... Disposable units with no real characters as units. Fighting to capture territory for a daily income or a production building, having aircraft, naval, infantry and vehicle warfare. Infantry are the only ones who can capture a building (kind of subverted in this game). Character armies reflect their personality with strengths and weaknesses (supposed to be present in the full game for Warside). Characters have super powers to change the dynamic of battle/prevent stalemates and the powers are based on a meter that builds up when units are damaged or destroyed (usually based on their value). Terrains give defense bonuses, but also make a difference in how easy they are to travel on (the one detail that completely mirrors Fire Emblem).

That's probably everything, but the units are also carefully designed so a lot of things have a counter, but that counter does not work 100% of the time.

[Dax_B]

Oh boy, here come the "concerned citizen" Nintendo fanboy crowd.

They had issues with Stardew Valley being like Harvest Moon.
They had issues with Genshin Impact being like Zelda.
They had issues with Dinkum being like Animal Crossing.
They had issues with countless RPG monster collector games being like Pokemon.

And so forth, your pals at Nintendo do not own a genre of games. You can stop wishing for your corporate overlords suing small indie game development teams out of existence. It rarely happens, just because a video games takes 'inspiration' from one series it does not make it a 1:1 copy.

If Nintendo sued as much as their fanboys wished then nobody in the industry would work with or have good relations with them.

[Gordon Freeman]

Originally posted by Dax_B:

Oh boy, here come the "concerned citizen" Nintendo fanboy crowd.

They had issues with Stardew Valley being like Harvest Moon.
They had issues with Genshin Impact being like Zelda.
They had issues with Dinkum being like Animal Crossing.
They had issues with countless RPG monster collector games being like Pokemon.

And so forth, your pals at Nintendo do not own a genre of games. You can stop wishing for your corporate overlords suing small indie game development teams out of existence. It rarely happens, just because a video games takes 'inspiration' from one series it does not make it a 1:1 copy.

If Nintendo sued as much as their fanboys wished then nobody in the industry would work with or have good relations with them.

You assume to know too much... I'm not a Nintendo fanboy... I'm a Steam fanboy who recognises good work by good devs. This game looks really really good but I don't want them getting sued by some other company and then I can't get a refund when they go bankrupt or whatever especially when I've gone over the 2 hour limit. My question was more about asking if this is the same company or not. Your response was irrational at best... You only needed to check my display picture and username to figure out that it's not a Nintendo character or a Nintendo name, it's character based on a PC game and is called Gordon Freeman... That game being Half-Life 2. So you absolutely got steamrolled by your lack of judgement and now you look like a moron for doing it when you could have come in here like the other people and said "It's a different company and has similar qualities but it should be okay" to paraphrase what these other reasonable ladies and gentlemen in this thread have responded with.

So to the others here, thank you for adding to the conversation in a positive way. He'll do better next time I'm sure :)

[GuyYouMetOnline]

Originally posted by MRM:

Originally posted by Big Convoy:

It's not. There are different characters with different abilities. There are also different units like the Sniper and the Rhino, which were not in Advance Wars.



This game is made by a different developer, and is slated to also be released on the Switch, PS4, PS5, Xbox One. If there were some issue, Nintendo would not have allowed it to be added to the released.

While similar, the game is different enough that the dev can't be sued since a grid-based tactical combat game is too generic a mechanic, and has been used in plenty of games other than Advance Wars

nintendo sues more then enough companies where stuff is close to theirs xd

Not really. Yeah, they're going after Palworld, but that's not the norm. And while they went after Yuzu, it was only after Yuzu started trying to make money off of Switch emulation. And yeah, there've been a few fan projects they've had taken down, but only a few; stuff like Mario Eclipse and Pokemon Infinite Fusion is still there, and don't even get me started on what people have done with Super Mario World.

And Nintendo certainly hasn't gone after any of the other Advance Wars imitators there are.

[Taisetsu na Miko]

Mario World is old enough that they can not go after people for it. Not to mention they use emulators and ROMs from the Internet to run things like Virtual Console, SNES Online, SNES Mini and even probably Mario 3D All Stars. They went after Dolphin, but I'm not sure if that was related to Yuzu. They went after Steam Deck emulation. They went after Another Metroid 2 Remake despite not having problems with ROMhacks for Metroid and that not being a paid game (but maybe they were already working on Metroid 2's remake and that's why they did it). They went after the Smash community for doing pretty small things that they mostly had been doing for a long time and they prevented people from building the community and having professional players.

I still agree with Dax_B that things would be worse if they went after anyone their fanbases pointed at as a problem. Although they forgot how every platform fighter is a "Smash clone" which is the one I find most offensive and the one that seems to have the most economic impact on alternatives to Smash.

[jungle.james]

Nintendo boy is upset. Why don't you swallow down that concern trolling with some Soylent?

[Scrof]

If Nintendo is going to throw a hissy fit about it like with Palworld, I swear they'll cement themselves as the lowest of the low, worse than Ubisoft, Bethesda and Activision even.

[Coolboy]

I love reading the comments here...
Deep down, we all know it is a straight-up replica from Advance Wars with all the similar codes....

But everyone is arguing about something/practice that has existed for many years since the Gameboy.

Anyone remember "Limeware" or "Fire FOX", you download an emulator and play games for free, and many times you play the knock off version because you can't find the original game files lol

[GameMaster]

Originally posted by Scrof:

If Nintendo is going to throw a hissy fit about it like with Palworld, I swear they'll cement themselves as the lowest of the low, worse than Ubisoft, Bethesda and Activision even.

... Palworld's devs are infamous for not only pulling shenanigans against the 'Unofficial Rules of Conduct' that the industry is built upon, but also being something of a pump and dump scheme.

[Scrof]

Originally posted by GameMaster:

... Palworld's devs are infamous for not only pulling shenanigans against the 'Unofficial Rules of Conduct' that the industry is built upon, but also being something of a pump and dump scheme.

I know they're scummy themselves and I have no respect for Palworld or the devs, but Nintendo went as far as to invent a stupid patent to sue them post-factum. Drawing inspirations from previous games, even making clones (and there is absolutely nothing wrong with clones as long as it's not stolen assets or some other obvious BS), has been an industry staple since the VERY beginning like 40 years ago, and it's a completely fine and good thing that lead us here, where we have an absolute abundance of great stuff on Steam.

[Doc Clarke]

Doom wanted to sue all subsequent 3D shooters for plagiarism. Then they remembered that before that came Escape from Castle Wolfenstein. So they decided that EfCW was going to sue all the first person shooters.
Then someone told Wolfenstein that it was based on "3D Gun Maze"
So 3D Gun Maze thought "Ok so I'll sue everyone.
Turned out 3D Gun Maze took it's inspiration from 3D Monster Maze on the ZX Spectrum
So the devs of that game said "I know, we can sue all subsequent 3D games like ours"
But turned out 3D Monster Maze was based on a game called "Knot in 3D"
So the developers of Knot in 3D thought...
Eventually it turns out that all games where you move and shoot can probably be dated back to a game created on an IBM terminal in 1971 written by a guy over his lunch breaks inside a month.
Wow...he is owed a LOT of money

[Polysorbate]

I hope the devs did their homework and built a time machine to see if Nintendo would (in the future) patent the concept of an overhead view of a map divided into squares.

[Tiberius]

yea this looks waayyy too similar to advance wars.