I just can't deal with the first guy who falls down ends your turn rule.

[williamrjones8]

Start by saying I only play offline by myself. Just played the end of what could have been a great game except per usual at what ended up being the end of the game I missed a tackle on a endlessly dodging ghoul ballcarrier. I started to set up a wedge to at least buffer the runners super dodge. I clicked on the wrong guy although it wouldn't have mattered. I'd have had to win fights to free up guys the chase the runner after he had dodged left to right all the way across the board. Given the way the undead roll the die when fighting they'd have gotten me in the 2nd fight. As it was even though it was my dodgeyest guys he was tripped up at the first step. I've asked before and ask again, would someone please make an American Rules Version of this game that doesn't have the fall down and end the turn rule. I'd think it might have the sales they were looking for from bloodbowl 3

[Yarrick]

That's how turnovers happen in BB otherwise if you did not end turn on failing stuff then your opponent would never be able to get the ball off you

[williamrjones8]

Nope, he'd had the ball the hole time. I'd been trying to get it off him. Was playing this from when the boardgame had first came out, it was hard to get anything from Games Workshop in the States back then so it took some work. The die roll results since the game came out have been wonky and they've never fixed them. Never found a mod that works either. I've looked and the only American Rules game like this is Mutant League Football which live action. They need the "fall down turnover" rule in this to keep some of the soccer feel, I get that. I really think they would be amazed at the sales of a turned based American Rules Version. It's not like Games Workshop to miss a chance to make money, but maybe they just don't like American Rules Football

[Yarrick]

not sure i been playing TT Blood bowl for 30 years or so and i think the rules are fine the new one is crap t tho, but he BB2016 rules that have been out for 40+ years are awesome and proven, and massively tested over that time. as for the dice array in BB2 its all fine its been tested, if you look back far enough. the rules are suppose to mimick Table top Blood bowl so not too sure what you are looking for, this is not madden or mutant league. Blood Bowl is a chess meets americian football turn based pretty much with more violence .

[AdderTude]

You think that's bad? I have seen the AI take many defender-advantage rolls (red dice) and only get bad results all of twice out of dozens of times. Literally every other time, it's double Stumble, double Push, double Defender Down or Stumble/Defender Down. Otherwise, when it rolls any bad result (double Attacker Down or Both Down or a combination of the two), it uses a re-roll to ensure none of the negative results appear so you're forced to get one of your players bashed. That's how the AI cheats at this game: it never takes a roll on disadvantage unless it knows with certainty that it'll never get a bad result.

[Super Cosmic Space Magnet]

Was gonna write a sassy comment about how to defend/how with proper play the AI will almost never score touchdowns against you - but it seemed unkind and unproductive.

It's good to acknowledge the things about a game that you dislike, rather than outright blaming the game itself for the design. Blood Bowl is fundamentally a game about risk management, and recognising that the probability stakes/Turnover system isn't enjoyable for you helps you to identify what it is you are looking for in a game.

The fantasy of the Tolkein-esque races playing sportsball with each other is fun and compelling! I didn't know there even were games other than Blood Bowl that explored it, but if OP's been able to find it that also better suit their gameplay tastes then good for them!