Lizardmen Unbalanced

[Nyht Ranger]

Anyone else finding the lizardmen unbalanced. No other team has 4 strength on their linemen and armor of 9. I thought that 1 agility would offset the strength but nope. They instantly get two dice rolls on every hit. Plus then they get skinks that have movement of 8. How are you suppose to compete against this.

[Harken]

Saurus are strong but unskilled.

Skinks are fast but easy to injure and remove from the pitch.

Try to target the Skinks and put yourself at a numerical advantage. Lizardmen have no way to handle the ball without Skinks.

[Andrius227]

yeah, they have 7 strong guys, but the skinks are made out of glass and die very often.

If you kill the skinks, then you outnumber the rest of the team.

[Blue Demon]

Anyone else finding at some point a topic about how X team is unbalanced for every time? seems like balance to me

[Sephorin]

Originally posted by Blue Demon:

Anyone else finding at some point a topic about how X team is unbalanced for every time? seems like balance to me

Yes, this is how I know that a game is well balanced. I have seen at least one thread claiming that every single race (except for Wood Elves) is overpowered. :)

[Kapitän Haddock]

Its just as it is. very good team indeed.

[Wrayday]

Lizards were meant to fight the Orcs and Dwarves so it's why they are so beefy. The real enemy is the f'in dice rolls.

Well as delusioned as people are with the game being balanced ... no one is that delusional to think Wood Elves are anything but cannon fodder.

[Dode]

So we've had Dwarves, Chaos, Orcs and Lizards being complained about since beta started...

[rinku]

Originally posted by =MGC= Nyht Ranger:

Anyone else finding the lizardmen unbalanced. No other team has 4 strength on their linemen and armor of 9. I thought that 1 agility would offset the strength but nope. They instantly get two dice rolls on every hit. Plus then they get skinks that have movement of 8. How are you suppose to compete against this.

Orcs and Chaos also have ST4, AV9 players. And Humans and Elves have MA8 catchers. Skaven have MA *9* players.

No Lizardman player starts with any skills. They have some issue with picking up the ball, since Saurus have bad agility and Skinks need to roll doubles to get Sure Hands. They have no throwing game, since again Skinks need doubles to obtain Passing skills and they're Stunty which gives them a -1 to passing.

Like all other teams, you counter them by avoiding their strong points and targeting their weak points. Like the old BB1 commentry said: "Lizardmen have players that are really strong and others that are really fast! That's true, but they also have players that are easily damaged and can't pick up the ball!"

[Grulemugg]

The newbies still try to play ball. Kill the stinks!

[Falesh]

Lizardmen are indeed one of the better races, however they are not that much more powerful then the others. You can see some stats of race win/loss ratios here[www.cmanu.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk] These are by no means perfect as they come from a league that has a lot more kill teams in, but they give you an idea.

[Larus]

Don't know, lizards are fun and strong but I always struggle to order them into an optimal TV. And I also never considered them amoung the strongest teams with any team value.

At low TV they struggle because they have no block related skills and sauri can be marked easily. Mid TV they still struggle an awful lot against dodge and blodge and teams got better at killing Skinks, Sauri are still marked easily. Plus your Sauri level up much slower than your Skinks which can boost your TV while not making your team that much better.

And high TV, well there are Chaos killing teams which can remove your dinos very reliably which makes the match snowball hard in your opponents favour. And even dodge teams are very good at killing Skinks at that point. Blodge remains a big issue since tackel is a skill you take usually as 3rd or 4th because there are more importent things to take first and if not combined with break tackel is your guy easily disabled when you need him.

[Dire]

I would like to even HAVE them...no DLC races whatsoever despite preorder...♥♥♥♥ that.

[The Hat]

Bloodbowl isn't meant to be exactly balanced, certain teams are just better than others at a current Team Value point. This is how it has always been and should stay, as some of us like the challenge of playing lower tier teams.

Lizards are not the strongest team in bloodbowl at all team values, they are pretty good all things considered though when they start, a bit like amazons start quite strong.

If you are just looking at bashy teams chaos are still better once they get started, or orc if you know what you are doing from the get go. Not to mention chaos dwarves when we get them, nurgle or khemri etc.

[Obiwan]

The Steam massive never fails on this front.

Can we stop making posts about things that have existed before the majority of you were even a sexual thought??? seriously.

The game is fine, the teams are fine, we have already accepted and chosen to endure the nerf to Orc Blitzers (despite one of the Orc pro's being "Blitzer price/performance ratio is one of the best)

This really is getting ridiculous.

[Wrayday]

I always used Witch Elves and Assassians to get around most Str teams, but apparently in this game my assassians are so derp they don't know which end of the dagger to stab with... so it's been a challenge.