League Management Questions

[Mr Suplex]

I am starting a league that will have two competitions: a round robin "regular season" followed by a knockout "playoff" round for the top teams from the round robin. I had a number of questions about how to set this up.

1) I see that I can make the reward from the round robin be a ticket to another competition. I want to use this feature. How should I set up the knockout round's "Admission mode" to accomodate this feature?

2) When looking at teams, I see that there is a filter for "Members". I have some people who have joined my league, but they do not show up in the "Members" filter when I attempt to invite them to the round robin competition. Why not? Do I have to search using the "All" filter for each step of this invitation process?

3) Speaking of the "Members" filter, I cannot choose any other search criteria for my league other than this from the league's main page (not specific competitions). This makes me unable to invite other teams to the league as I cannot search for them. Is this a known bug?

4) I see that another reward I can offer is cyans, yet when I try to place an amount as a reward, the game tells me "the reward is invalid". Why?

5) What does the "Open the Market" option mean? The game gives absolutely no indication of what the effects of this are. smh...

Thanks for any help you can provide here. It seems that Cyanide is hell bent on being as opaque as possible with their game features.

[Mr Suplex]

Bump. Does anyone have any insight here? I appreciate the help.

[DarthPhysicist]

1} dunno

2) They have to join the individual competition to be a member of it. Being a league member is not sufficient.

3) You can search for coaches under All and send a ticket

4) You are going to pony up the Cyans? Perhaps you don't have the Cyans?

5) Opening the Market allows you to buy and sell players but you have to have closed the competition (usually a ladder).

[rycrisp]

As far as the multi player league goes is anyone else disappointed with the way it's been implemented? No chat box, no in game mail system no way of knowing if other coaches in the league are even online unless your friends on steam.
Correct me if I'm wrong but it seems like a massive step backwards from chaos edition

[Kastagir]

Originally posted by rycrisp:

As far as the multi player league goes is anyone else disappointed with the way it's been implemented? No chat box, no in game mail system no way of knowing if other coaches in the league are even online unless your friends on steam.
Correct me if I'm wrong but it seems like a massive step backwards from chaos edition

I didnt play CE, but ^ this +1 . Its as if someone put deliberate thought into making League Management and well, MP in general, as player unfriendly and cumbersome as possible .

[Mr Suplex]

Originally posted by darthphysicist:

1} dunno

2) They have to join the individual competition to be a member of it. Being a league member is not sufficient.

3) You can search for coaches under All and send a ticket

4) You are going to pony up the Cyans? Perhaps you don't have the Cyans?

5) Opening the Market allows you to buy and sell players but you have to have closed the competition (usually a ladder).

Thanks for the reply. For #3, I cannot change the filter. The only filter available is "Members" and every other option is greyed out. It seems like a bug but whatever it is, I can't invite anyone because of this.

[FCS_PCTEST33_Vince]

Originally posted by Mr Suplex:

1) I see that I can make the reward from the round robin be a ticket to another competition. I want to use this feature. How should I set up the knockout round's "Admission mode" to accomodate this feature?

You could set the Knockout as "Invitation only".

Originally posted by Mr Suplex:

For #3, I cannot change the filter. The only filter available is "Members" and every other option is greyed out. It seems like a bug but whatever it is, I can't invite anyone because of this.

You can't invite people in your league, you have to invite them in a competition. The same filter but in a competition page should not be greyed out.

Originally posted by Mr Suplex:

4) I see that another reward I can offer is cyans, yet when I try to place an amount as a reward, the game tells me "the reward is invalid". Why?

Your cyans pot is different from the cyans league pot, and adding them from your own is not straightforward:
1. Create a competition and set the entry fee to the desired amount of cyans you want to share
2. Join with a team
3. Leave with the team (optional)
4. Delete the competition (optional)

You should know have cyans in your league pot and can add them in the reward panel.

[Mr Suplex]

Originally posted by Focus_Guillaume:

Originally posted by Mr Suplex:

For #3, I cannot change the filter. The only filter available is "Members" and every other option is greyed out. It seems like a bug but whatever it is, I can't invite anyone because of this.

You can't invite people in your league, you have to invite them in a competition. The same filter but in a competition page should not be greyed out.

Thanks for the help. So someone automatically becomes a member of the league once they are a member of a competition within it, right?

A few more questions:

6) In a Round Robin league, what determines who wins if both teams have the same record. For example, the top two teams each have 3 wins and 1 loss. Who comes out on top? Has this been documented anywhere?

7) How do I reset a competition for another season? We intend to have multiple seasons within our league, following the format I described above (round robin regular season follwed by top teams in a knockout tournament to determine the season champion). Do I have to create a new competition each time we have a new season, or can I just reset things?

[FCS_PCTEST33_Vince]

I will take an example: you have 16 players in RR1, and the 4 top will progress into the competition KO1.

Create the RR2 competition already, then set the following rewards in RR1:
- 1-4: ticket for KO1
- 1-16: ticket for RR2

Or you can set the ticket for RR2 to 5-16 players and an another ticket reward for RR2 in KO1 (but you have to be sure to set a ticket reward for each position (semi-finalist, finalist, winner, etc).

[VG Purist]

Originally posted by Mr Suplex:

Originally posted by Focus_Guillaume:

You can't invite people in your league, you have to invite them in a competition. The same filter but in a competition page should not be greyed out.

Thanks for the help. So someone automatically becomes a member of the league once they are a member of a competition within it, right?

A few more questions:

6) In a Round Robin league, what determines who wins if both teams have the same record. For example, the top two teams each have 3 wins and 1 loss. Who comes out on top? Has this been documented anywhere?

7) How do I reset a competition for another season? We intend to have multiple seasons within our league, following the format I described above (round robin regular season follwed by top teams in a knockout tournament to determine the season champion). Do I have to create a new competition each time we have a new season, or can I just reset things?

That is correct, they automatically become a member once they join your league. However you may want to have a steam group up or something to make scheduling easier.

For the answer to #6 - In the end, you are the one that determines the tie breaker. Don't let the AI do it. Normally for my league, I manually invite the coaches to make sure the seeding is correct.

For the answer to #7 - Once you close the competition you should be able to hit the start button again and this should begin the following season. However you may want to simply create a new one and have it named different like "Season 2"

[Robin Claassen]

Originally posted by Focus_Guillaume:

Your cyans pot is different from the cyans league pot, and adding them from your own is not straightforward:
1. Create a competition and set the entry fee to the desired amount of cyans you want to share
2. Join with a team
3. Leave with the team (optional)
4. Delete the competition (optional)

You should know have cyans in your league pot and can add them in the reward panel.

Thanks for your help with this. I was having difficulty figuring out how to add cyans to a competition myself, and I was able to do so by following the steps above.

This led to a problem, though. After the I successfully used that method to transfer the cyans to a friend of mine who needs them as prize for a competition he's running, the team that I used to add the cyans to the competition became stuck in that competition. I can neither remove it (I get a message saying that there are aren't enough cyans in the kitty for me to do so), nor delete it (I get a message saying that I can't delete it while it's still in a league).

Is there any solution to this problem that you're aware of, or I am now just stuck with a dead team slot? Will my friend who I transferred the cyans to also have to take on a permanently dead team slot in order to award cyans to his own competition?

[FCS_PCTEST33_Vince]

Originally posted by Robin Claassen:

Originally posted by Focus_Guillaume:

Your cyans pot is different from the cyans league pot, and adding them from your own is not straightforward:
1. Create a competition and set the entry fee to the desired amount of cyans you want to share
2. Join with a team
3. Leave with the team (optional)
4. Delete the competition (optional)

You should know have cyans in your league pot and can add them in the reward panel.

Thanks for your help with this. I was having difficulty figuring out how to add cyans to a competition myself, and I was able to do so by following the steps above.

This led to a problem, though. After the I successfully used that method to transfer the cyans to a friend of mine who needs them as prize for a competition he's running, the team that I used to add the cyans to the competition became stuck in that competition. I can neither remove it (I get a message saying that there are aren't enough cyans in the kitty for me to do so), nor delete it (I get a message saying that I can't delete it while it's still in a league).

Is there any solution to this problem that you're aware of, or I am now just stuck with a dead team slot? Will my friend who I transferred the cyans to also have to take on a permanently dead team slot in order to award cyans to his own competition?

Hello, as an admin you can't kick a player when his cyans are used as a reward to avoid some abuse (you join the competition for a fee and then I kick you and keep the cyans) but as a player you should be able to leave the competition with the team (the cyans should stay in the league pot).
So if I'm remembering correctly, don't try to remove the team from the admin panel but from the "play in a league" screen