Development team only 10 people? Cyanide Studios ditches Blood Bowl 2? Many more questions....

[SFF2000]

These are things I have heard among the internet and youtubers since the new playable race came out. I am wondering how much of this is true or not and if the developers themselves can verify the development of content "promised" for the title before the launch.

Questions continued:

Is the development team now only 10 people?

Has Cyanide Studios moved resources from completing/finishing Blood Bowl 2 to another project?

What "promised" content is now "cut?"

Furthermore what "promised" content is being kept?

Why did creating one new race take so long to develop? It feels like multiple races should have been released by now.

What was the design decision for the Nords? They seem like a bland race with some generic abilities.

[MostBlunted]

They won´t.

[AoD_lexandro]

You wont get mods because of consoles. It costs a small fortune to have active storage on the console networks that users can access and update with custom content. This is why so so few games have any kind of user customisable content on consoles.

[MostBlunted]

Nobody prevents Cyanide from allowing mods for the PC version only. There a lot of games which only have mod support for the PC version, like 90% of all multiplattform titles...and it´s possible to allow mods for consoles, Fallout 4 for example will support mods on the console.

We won´t get mods because Cyanide don´t want it, that´s the only reason, don´t blame GW or the consoles for this decision. Same goes for the decision that console players have to pay for Norse, it´s possible to release DLC for free on the consoles. It´s not like that Sony or Microsoft told Cyanide that they are not allowed to give them away for free.

[VoodooMike]

Cyanide actively discouraged modding in BB1... when some of the players attempted to create the teams that were missing from earlier editions of BB1, they began encrypting the models and skins to ensure modders had nothing to work from, and then began layering on anti-tampering DRM to prevent alteration of the executable to allow for more races to be played.

Cyanide has never shown any interest in allowing 3rd party modding in their games... certainly not their BB games. They want exclusive control of everything so they can then not bother to use that control to benefit anyone.

[Dode]

引用自 VoodooMike：

Cyanide actively discouraged modding in BB1... when some of the players attempted to create the teams that were missing from earlier editions of BB1, they began encrypting the models and skins to ensure modders had nothing to work from,

You sure about that? There are player skins and changes to models (including stadia) which work on BB1 now.

and then began layering on anti-tampering DRM to prevent alteration of the executable to allow for more races to be played.

You can add races etc through database modding. This doesn't work in the server-based leagues, ofc, but works fine SP and direct-IP.

[Shulgi]

@Dode, Very interesting. Do you have names or links of mods for BBCE? Specialy if there is one with a Slann and/or Chaos pact team?

[Lunarra]

There is no problem on single player games mods, i use them and love them.
But i can easely understand why it would not really fit a multiplayer game.

I single player you are the one that decide what suits your play or not.

I can imagine waiting for a random game and see those Ultramarines ST5 AV10 with balster as next opponents. What am i supposed to do? Forfeit?

Yes some mods are awesome, but just for the possibility of seeing those ridiculous team i'd rather say no to mods.

[Larus]

I'm no it expert but I'm fairly sure that sever still need to allow such changes. BB2 should no longer work peer to peer so even if both parties have said mod might it not work.

Mods to changes the visuals shouldn't be a problem, assuming you manage to apply them, but things like stats and teams are a different topic.

[VoodooMike]

引用自 "dode"：

u sure about that? There are player skins and changes to models (including stadia) which work on BB1 now.

Yes, I'm sure about that. They later dropped the encryption, but for basically the entire high-functioning lifetime of BB1 they kept things behind a software wall. The difficulty of modding combined with the community's utter lack of support for modders basically eliminated all interest in modding BB1.

The encryption was tied to the DRM system they were using (it wasn't enabled initially, but they turned it on once people got excited about the idea of modding). When they dumped that DRM the encryption part went with it. By then there was nobody bothering with mods.

引用自 "dode"：

You can add races etc through database modding. This doesn't work in the server-based leagues, ofc, but works fine SP and direct-IP.

Again, NOW you can, but the amount of work it took to do that sort of change was genuinely herculean before the later low-pop years.

[MostBlunted]

引用自 Larus：

Mods to changes the visuals shouldn't be aproblem, assuming you manage to apply them, but things like stats and teams are a different topic.

Stats really are a differemt topic because they could be abused. But you could have the option for matchmaking to use mods or not. In a private league a player who would use a 10/10/10/10 team can be kicked easily. And all other players can enjoy the "officially" modded teams.

And those 10/10/10/10 modders can play against each other in the NAF, I wouldn´t care when I can still play the vanilla version as an option for matchmaking because I won´t play against them.

I don´t need mods which are changing the gameplay, but I don´t believe that we come close to 23+ teams "fast", if ever! I think it will take Cyanide about 1+ year to release the next 3 announced teams, that´s why I would prefer modded teams even if they won´t look as amazing as the officialy released ones or have animation errors/bugs (clipping and stuff like that).

I know I can play BBLE but I prefer BB2 because of some features like reconnecting/improved visuals /controller support over BBLE.

[SaintTodd]

I'm in my mid forties and seeing naked female bodies on my pc or TV screen has never gotten old. I want naked mods for every game!
And if you want, put pumpkin heads on them. Why not.