When do you fire players?

[Salem Graves]

Played my first game in an (offline) league as orcs and my line orc took an injury that gave him -1 av. I won the game and can afford to replace him, I don't feel like the av hit hurts him that much but I'm not sure.. Any advice on when to sack players would be much appreciated!

[Kornstalx]

A standard lineman can be 50-70k, which could be all the winnings from one to two games. If I'm floating in cash I'd do it, but otherwise I'd consider keeping him as an extra sideline substitute.

[Splinter]

Get rid of him. Yes orca Ag isn’t as big but you can get a new player with no loss of ag. He’s just bloat

[DMAN222]

OP said av (meaning armor) not ag. Orcs being av9 is a big part of their gameplan. They want to stand in there and punch stuff while being resilient when they are the ones getting hit. Orc linos are 10x more valuable as av9 than they are at av8 especially if you have the cash to replace. I like trash marking with them because of the high armor - oh, those Khemri have 4 Tomb Guardians? Well how about two of them just have fun trying to pick on these two linos. You can take threatening pieces away from the rest of the play pretty reliably. Great against Lizard teams as well to trash mark the saurus.

There are no hard-and-fast rules I know of as far when an injury means to fire or not, but generally, if a piece is a rookie or only has 1 normal skill, it is pretty safe to fire them upon any perm injury. AG bust is perhaps the only exception on pieces that are already only AG2 (or AG1, but getting an AG bust at AG1 is the same as MNG)

Edit: Splinter I see that the OP edited the message so that is probably the whole AG/AV confusion, my bad.

Additionally, as to the exact harm it does to your orc lino to stick around, the odds of a non-MB hit breaking your orc lino armor as normal is 16.67%. With his AV bust, the odds jump up all the way to 27.78%, that's huge in Blood Bowl. If your orc is getting hit by MB, his armor has a 27.78% chance to break usually, but that now becomes 41.67%. That is a drastic change and since orc linos mostly exist to get hit, a loner does the job just as well even if you didn't have the cash to replace

[Splinter]

Yep I read to fast, AV for sure fire him. I rather have a loner than him.

[Yarrick]

av 8 is still good eventually you will wanna replace him but i rather have a av8 piece than a loner piece as it stops you from using rerolls if he has to do something crucial

[Kejiruze]

Originally posted by Yarrick:

av 8 is still good eventually you will wanna replace him but i rather have a av8 piece than a loner piece as it stops you from using rerolls if he has to do something crucial

An Orc Lineman goes on the LOS to get punched, and then maybe dodges away at the end of the turn if they haven't stood up to clog the opposition/ provide an assist. None of this involves a rerollable action.

This is an immediate fire, even if it leaves you with a loner, Orcs don't need extra targets for losing their pitch presence.

[Arlen Tektolnes]

-AV = Fired
-ST = Fired
-MV = Fired
-AG = Fired unless they're a player who basically never uses AG (dwarf linos, zombies, big guys etc)
Too many skills without any doubles or stats on a standard lino = fired
Second skill on my dirty player = fired
Failed a GFI onto the endzone and cost me the match = you better believe they're fired

The only real exception to -AV and *maybe* -ST is a designated one turner, because ideally they are only on the pitch for one turn at a time, so won't get thumped.

[Stevcorp]

Since he's already useless, you should keep him in reserve and use him for some risky blocking. What's the worst that'll happen? More injuries?

[Splinter]

No but he cost you on Team Value and why most people will fire him.

[KharnTheKhan]

The cheaper they are the faster you can sell, Dont sell unless you can replace immediately after sell