Losing to people not that good

[Lillika]

Not sure I can keep playing this game and keep my sanity. I can't take it when I lose to people that I don't think are that good. I watch streams (the sage) and Jimmy Fantastic. I read guides and granted I could have a bit more actual play experience, but when I do I get so frusterated, I still make mistakes and get punished soo bad sometimes. Last game I didn't mean to go for it (could have hit without) on a blitz and 1 then rr then 1, and it was a super crucial play. Then on another crucial play, I decide to go for a 2 dice hit with block before my crucial play, I knew I could fail 1/36 and I knew it would prolly happen, but I went for it and bam double skulls. Things like this frusterate me way way too much, I am rage typing right now

I am not sure I have the patience to put in the games needed to play this game with any team that isn't pure bash, pure bash teams I can actually play alot of games with the same team, but I want to play with some agi teams (Wood Elf) I have played DE and HE and some skaven, pretty much everything.

I watch my opponents play and notice soo many non-optimal moves and plays and so many mistakes but when they end up making mistakes and beating me I just get sooo upset.

ok rant over.

[Hairy Coo]

I really hate losing, even a draw counts as a loss more often than not. I like my record to be at least 2/1 win ratio even if I do not qualify.

Having said that, I am usually just mad at myself, especially when I lose or draw against someone not that great. Because if I am better than them, how come they win/draw against me?

Dice is a factor, but it does not define everything all the time - i.e. if they just made 4 removals turn 1, that's Nuffle's will, I cant even be mad. On the other hand if I didnt notice possible 4+3+ 1D on a blodger for a pow and it worked - this is my fault, I have allowed these dice to be rolled in a first place.

[awekawek]

I played a few matches against newbie coaches over the last days. Sometimes it was a little too close but I think I won most of them. You just have to rely on your experience against them and play it very cautious until the dice catch up to them. I guess the experience shows when a newbie coach is just hunting for injuries and you can keep it slow for a few turns until they are out of position and then you go for the score.

[Paintbrush Poltergeist]

Lillika eredeti hozzászólása:

I can't take it when I lose to people

Then why play the multiplayer?

Lillika eredeti hozzászólása:

I watch streams (the sage) and Jimmy Fantastic. I read guides.

Only one of those is actually useful to improve. And it's the latter.

According to the reviews and what I've read, the game has a lot of RNG based luck.

[Hairy Coo]

Purple Aki eredeti hozzászólása:

Lillika eredeti hozzászólása:

I can't take it when I lose to people

Then why play the multiplayer?

Lillika eredeti hozzászólása:

I watch streams (the sage) and Jimmy Fantastic. I read guides.

Only one of those is actually useful to improve. And it's the latter.

According to the reviews and what I've read, the game has a lot of RNG based luck.

Lol, why do people even bother discussing something they understand nothing about?

[Alien]

Playing against rather bad players making poor choices but thinking they are playing well is actually one of the worst things I experienced in BB2, eventhough I lose rarely against them.

In my last match, I was playing against a dwarf player like that with my rookie HL (so no blocks). He kept making dangerous moves at the beginning of his turns, and he was bad at positioning (no cage, sending his players too far awat so they would be useless etc). Most of his rolls were one-dice, and since I was playing lizardmen it was always FO3 vs. FO4.

He never missed a one-dice roll (at worst it was a push), he injured my Kroxigor on turn 2 and killed a saurus later ; and he still thought I was the lucky one because he felt that I never encountered two skulls. He didn't understand that positioning was important. He didn't understand that he needed to put players with tackle next to my skinks.

He even told me "look at the stats at the end of the match".
Here are they: his team has 58 successful blocks ; mine has 48. He injured 4 players, I injured 2. He caused two KO, I did 1. He almost never missed a block. However I won the match 2-0.
It's not an exceptional situation, and it's even worse when it's the dishonest bad player who wins after passing with dwarfs or blitzing at the beginning of each turn with a minotaur.

I don't think I'm a very good player myself (I don't know how to properly OTTD for instance), but I know what I do and I read guides. So I generally give new/bad players advices. It's horrible when they just respond "no u just lucky". Most often, they don't have any reasons to say that - they didn't lost key players, I'm not trolling them. I always wish "good luck" at the beginning of each match. I make mistakes and I play relatively safe (so I don't try impossible things, I keep my skinks safe, they have no reasons to consider I'm lucky). When I'm lucky I know it and I say it, because it happens sometimes, and sometimes the opponent is lucky. That's just BB2, you've got to play for the long term.


That's why I don't really like to play in the open ladder, but rather in relatively little leagues with experienced players. Yes, it's a lot harder to win, but it's a much more pleasant experience, and I really recommend that to other experienced players.

tl;dr: don't play in open ladder, play with people who know for sure what they are doing in private leagues.

[Paintbrush Poltergeist]

Hairy Coo eredeti hozzászólása:

Purple Aki eredeti hozzászólása:

Then why play the multiplayer?



Only one of those is actually useful to improve. And it's the latter.

According to the reviews and what I've read, the game has a lot of RNG based luck.

Lol, why do people even bother discussing something they understand nothing about?

I actually know quite a bit about the game.
> inb4 but you don't own it so you can't know anything about it!

[Franz]

I think many are misunderstanding why "risky plays" are "bad plays". It's not because they are inherently bad, with a bit of luck a pass play or a dodge can turn a game around. The "bit of luck" here is key: risky plays don't pay off in the distance, statistically you'll lose more if you constantly resort to those, that's why expert BB coaches usually avoid them, but in a single game all that's needed is a good roll once or twice.
There's no dishonesty, no need to feel cheated out of an "easy victory", the dice can reward risky play as well as punish it. If you really need some consolation think that risky plays won't pay off in the long run.

[Franz]

Oh and remember that someone who is a "worse coach" than you is by definition someone unable to recognize opportunities and evaluate risks as well as you can, so don't be surprised when they say you're the lucky one: they simply can't see the game as clearly as you - yet.

[Faror128]

To be fair, this happens quite a lot in the real life game as well, I used to play Orcs (4 blockers, 4 blitzers and a thrower) and used to do ok, could tie the opponent up nicely.
But the red mist always seemed to affect me in the latter stages of the game, caring too much about causing casualties and forgoing the ball. (Stupid mistake I know- I was a beginner)

I later found that I was playing the wrong team for my playstyle (I now play elf union if I want to be competitive, 2+ pickup, throw, catch and dump off in Bb2 is yummy, not so much for Bb2020 lol).
But you have to remember, if the dice hate you, the dice hate you- cant do anything if you're rolling constant 1's and opponent is rolling 6's; the only things that you can do is control what you do in response to that.

[Mr Blue Playdoh]

That’s where you going wrong thinking people like Jimmy are good hahaha so funny!

[orangesobe]

Sometimes you just gotta go for the high risk plays and hope it works out, 50% of this game is positioning the other 50% is luck, despite what anyone says this game is very rng, i've seen field rushes ko 90% of my opponents team, rng hurts

[Lillika]

wow rage post from over 3 yrs ago get necro'd :)

[Revolter]

blood bowl is the only game ive play where a opponent has destroyed his keyboard while i was playing against him
I know because i was in discord with him while we played and he got so annoyed he started hitting it on his desk
he was blaming the dice and how bad his rolls are
but it was because i was making him roll the dice to avoid loosing the ball
i tend to play the game and try to roll as little dice as possible take as little risk and when i have to take a roll i make it as good a chance as i can

im often getting accused of never failing a dice roll but i dont like to take a chance for me standing putting a tackle zone making the opponent block/dodge is better

i will take a risk if i have to but that's only to stop them scoring or if its last turn and i can score

[Herr Morlock]

If you do not succeed, you are playing too risky, in my experience. If you act too soon, you will sometimes overstretch your defenses and get a goal for the enemy, instead for yourself...

Knowing strategic moves is nice, but will get you nowhere if you do not have the patience to wait for a REAL good chance...