Crowd surfing question

[Nemanja91]

Yesterday I had an interesting turn. I used my Minotaur to blitz one player, got defender down result, and he ended up in the crowd. He got injured but my Mino didn't get any SPP. How and why? Once more, he didn't get pushed off the pitch, rather knocked down.

[Franz]

This question was already asked and answered many times before.
Doesn't matter who, why or how many times you killed him before he hit the ground, if a player ends up in the crowd you get nada, no exception.

[Nemanja91]

Originally posted by Franz:

This question was already asked and answered many times before.
Doesn't matter who, why or how many times you killed him before he hit the ground, if a player ends up in the crowd you get nada, no exception.

I think this is fine for unmodified armor roles, that is when an attacking player doesn't have Mighty Blow/Claws and such. However I don't think a defending player should evade modified armor role by being knocked down into the crowd. If pushed then it's ok.

[Franz]

That's your opinion and you're entitled to it, but the rules state otherwise. If you want to use MB, Claw and gain SPPs don't crowdsurf. It's not like the defending player is cheating you out of your skills, you have full control over it: next time angle the blitz from another direction.

Keep in mind that surfing will always, 100% chance, get rid of an opposing piece for the rest of the drive, waaaaaay better odds than a knockdown with MB, Claw, Piling On followed by a 8 men gang foul.

[DarthPhysicist]

I want my cake and eat it too.

[Dode]

Originally posted by Nemanja91:

Yesterday I had an interesting turn. I used my Minotaur to blitz one player, got defender down result, and he ended up in the crowd. He got injured but my Mino didn't get any SPP. How and why? Once more, he didn't get pushed off the pitch, rather knocked down.

No, he got pushed off the pitch. Any DD or DS is a push back followed by a Knocked Down (CRP page 10), meaning you resolve the surf only. Since a pushback into the crowd is always an injury roll there is no armour roll to be made for being Knocked Down. Since the crowd, not your player, caused the casualty your player receives no SPP.

[licker34]

Some of the confusion likely is a result of how BB2 shows the play.

When you roll a knock down the cut scene (if you have them on) will trigger for the knock down, making it seem as though you 'caused' the armor break.

As others have explained, when a player is pushed off the field, there is no actual armor roll, it automatically passes and only an injury roll is made. But that roll is done 'by the crowd' not 'your player'.

So no spp.

Like it dislike it, that's fine, just understand that it is the rule.

[Nemanja91]

TIL there is no armor role for players who go crowd surfing, rather injury role straight away. Thank you for clarifying this, at least it makes some sense this way.