Value of a Wood Elf Tree Man?

[Blair]

I'm playing a new-ish Wood Elf Team and I've gotten a Tree Man but after a couple games I haven't been able to find much to do with it.

What can be done, what's the best thing you can do and what should I be thinking about in regards to the Tree Man?

Thanks

[Kernest]

I've played WE quite a bit and I like using the Treeman. That's a personal preference, some WE coaches prefer not having one.

Best thing he can do is just stand there, doing nothing and hopefully tie up as many enemies as possible for as long as possible.

If you're in contact with two Sauri or Black Orcs for example, that's giving you a 1 player advantage elsewhere on the pitch (or 1 player equalizer, if you're down some, as you'll likely be). You don't necessarily even want to throw blocks with the Treeman in a situation like that just in case you get rooted and can't follow up (though you'd at some point take Grab and fix that).

A lot of coaches also spend immense amount of effort to knock the Treeman down, which is always what you want to happen.

To make a Treeman really useful though, you need to roll doubles or 10 on your first level-up (or maybe second) to take either +MA or Jump Up, to get rid of the 50% chance of not getting up due to 2 MA. If you're level 3 without +MA or Jump Up, replace that Treeman as soon as you can.

[Hairy Coo]

Treeman is pretty usefull imo - mb and guard on normals, grap for easy one turn, holding up hell lotsa players, being a noob magnet who will dedicate half of the team to knock him down. Even rooted he is usefull on your offence as you can stall making circles around him. On defence he could be put on los or straight behind it to deny follow ups. When he is rooted you could push players onto him with blitzes for holding and follow up blocks.

[Kayeka]

Treemen get hit so your fragile little Elves don't have to. They are also a very good roadblock, securing a nice bit of real estate for your team simply by standing there.

Wood Elves can work just fine without a Treeman, but I personally think they are better with.

[licker34]

Originally posted by Hairy Coo:

Treeman is pretty usefull imo - mb and guard on normals,

Treeman starts with MB...

If you don't roll a double on him by the 2nd or 3rd skill he can feel quite bloaty as after grab and guard there are just not many S skills that provide much value for a 200k player with MA2 and take root.

He is a very situationally useful player otherwise. In some matchups he'll keep the opponents tied up, and even cause a removal or two from LOS blocks. In other matchups (elfs) he'll never be in contact with anyone, and once/if he takes root will become nearly completely useless. And in still other matchups, where the opponent has guard and ST5 players, he'll get knocked down and spend the game trying to stand up.

I've played a lot with and without a treeman and it doesn't seem to affect my win rate much with or without. A lot will depend on the meta you are in, so if it's COL then you know you'll see a lot of bash at some point (if you get to higher TVs) if its some league... well you'll have to figure out how much value he brings relative to the opposition you face.

[Hairy Coo]

Originally posted by licker34:

Originally posted by Hairy Coo:

Treeman is pretty usefull imo - mb and guard on normals,

Treeman starts with MB...

It is a coma thing :) MB, and Guard on normals

[WoodMan]

I only played a few games as WE, but I kind of like the Treeman. I seem to remember at one point I had 5 or 6 enemies in base contact with him. With the Elves being as fast as they are, such a distraction lets your team position wherever you want!

[DarthPhysicist]

A tree in the middle of the field can help divide the field and force the opponent down one half of the field. Stand firm st 6 makes him a pretty big speed bump and allows pillaring defenses with fewer elves. Once he falls down however... tits on a bull...