Dungeon Defenders II

Dungeon Defenders II

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deadspawn Oct 27, 2024 @ 6:22am
what to use in lieu of mass destruction
I only have 1 mass destruction shard now and can't get my second without a solid defense.

What would you use in lieu of a mass destruction shard on the hunter's spectral knight relic. It has spectral amplification and a gilded destruction, but I need another shard that adds damage. Yes, the standard anti anti anti mods on the relic.

It is rather annoying, because I can't get the shards I need for the werewolf without increased damage on the relic.
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The Virologist Oct 27, 2024 @ 6:34am 
Gilded attack rate will ramp up its dmg significantly if you don't have a 10/10 attack rate on relic.
It's An Otter Oct 27, 2024 @ 4:27pm 
Defense Rate, Destruction, Power Transfer, or Vampiric Empowerment are the common damage shards. Socket whichever you don't already have and gives the biggest DPS boost.

If you already have a well rounded DPS relic you should be able to get the Incursion Hypers pretty easy. The mass destruction for masteries also doesn't take much effort and is available pretty quick.
deadspawn Oct 28, 2024 @ 11:09am 
thank you both. I've been playing around with vampiric empowerment in the one slot, it is ok not great. Been trying to complete c8 primes, but only have about 1/2 done. My defenses aren't holding out on the harder maps and I have to use my main to DPS down more than just bosses. Not a flood, more like a trickle.
It's An Otter Oct 28, 2024 @ 1:26pm 
Originally posted by deadspawn:
thank you both. I've been playing around with vampiric empowerment in the one slot, it is ok not great. Been trying to complete c8 primes, but only have about 1/2 done. My defenses aren't holding out on the harder maps and I have to use my main to DPS down more than just bosses. Not a flood, more like a trickle.
How progressed are you? A C10 relic can overcome a fair bit of other deficiencies especially when you only need to clear C8 content.

If C8 is level appropriate, you'll need to be sure your shards are in order and have at least 1-2 decently modded out relics. C8+ is a bit of a soft-cap and requires getting your defenses sorted out to progress. Worst case, you can leech the harder maps and do the easy ones solo.

Which Hypers have you done? Masteries have a lower barrier of entry but take more time to unlock.
deadspawn Oct 29, 2024 @ 10:04am 
I can't remember which ones I have done without looking at the collection/maps. The one with the colored knights I couldn't complete. The assasins were stopping me from activating the switches. I played with some other people and we didn't complete it (not my def). The assasins are like super powered there. I've played lots of c8/c9 and they are almost OP there even with pest repellant. It isn't one or two, it is like 3-5 at once.

I've only reset 3 times, so I don't have all the bonuses to use.
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It's An Otter Oct 29, 2024 @ 12:44pm 
I'd probably suggest doing the masteries then. If I remember right you get a Mass Destruction at 50 stars which is pretty easy to achieve if you cherry pick them a bit.
DerAuer Nov 15, 2024 @ 2:10am 
as already mentioned having a defense at maximum defenserate (using a 10/10 c8+ defenserate mod or a guilded defense rate shard) should always be priority nr1.

for the assasins incoursion: you can place a reflect beam at one of the bells: it will trigger the bell everytime it is off cooldown. that way the ghost assasins will get stunned quite often. they are slow anyways. once u understand them they should be no problem. lure them around so they dont focus cores, collect the drops to activate the 4 obelisks and dps them down once u can. after that you can clear the assasins by dps/ lure them into your defenses.
hope that helps.
DerAuer Nov 15, 2024 @ 2:14am 
if you struggle with regular assasins thats a different story. from what i get so far you are not strong enough for prime incoursions yet. they are upscaled content and way harder than regular c8 maps.
if only the regular assasins are your problem though: try to swich up your build in order to have some removal included. that could be anything. like for example you could have earath dmg shard on reflect beams and have some poison dmg like gargoyles as defenses. so when you see purple smoke u go to your reflects and they get taken off you once they spawn. freeing you and enabling you to dps them down/ your defenses dps them down.
Originally posted by deadspawn:
I can't remember which ones I have done without looking at the collection/maps. The one with the colored knights I couldn't complete. The assasins were stopping me from activating the switches. I played with some other people and we didn't complete it (not my def). The assasins are like super powered there. I've played lots of c8/c9 and they are almost OP there even with pest repellant. It isn't one or two, it is like 3-5 at once.

I've only reset 3 times, so I don't have all the bonuses to use.

This is kinda unrelated to the OP but yesterday I joined a C8 Harbinger and it took us so long just to beat phase 1 that by the time we did we were getting hit with with dozens of assassins at the same time, it was kinda hilarious watching them all spawn in around us and just off us instantly. I started just jumping off the edge in an attempt to thin out their numbers when they'd latch on to me. XD
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