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Mochan Mar 16, 2019 @ 9:47pm
Upgrading Chaos 7 Gear MOD Chips
Is there a way to upgrade Chaos 7 Gear MODS?

MODS don't upgrade unless you Evolve the gear it's on. So if the MODS came from Chaos 6 or lower and you put it on Chaos 7 gear it is still a lower Chaos MODS. Is this correct?

How do I get it to evolve into Chaos 7 level MODS? Does re-rolling them cause them to upgrade to the current Gear level's Chaos?
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The Virologist Mar 16, 2019 @ 10:02pm 
Originally posted by Mochan:
Is there a way to upgrade Chaos 7 Gear MODS?

MODS don't upgrade unless you Evolve the gear it's on. So if the MODS came from Chaos 6 or lower and you put it on Chaos 7 gear it is still a lower Chaos MODS. Is this correct?

How do I get it to evolve into Chaos 7 level MODS? Does re-rolling them cause them to upgrade to the current Gear level's Chaos?

Adding lower tier mods to a higher mod gear will give you the low tier mod stats.

You evolve the piece of gear to chaos 7 before transferring the mode over to a chaos 7 piece of gear.

No re-rolling them does not cause the mods to go up chaos tier, that is all based on the gears chaos tier.
Mochan Mar 17, 2019 @ 7:40am 
So I have a question.

I got a Drain Aura MOD from Chaos 4 at Level 7. It deals something like 11,000dmg. I transfer it to a Chaos 6 Relic, then upgrade that to Chaos 7. When I do this, it now deals something like 12,870 damage.

BUT it's weaker than a Chaos 7 Relic with the same Drain Aura MOD that is just Level 2, but has 28,470 as a crappy red Level 2 MOD.

So does this mean that the MOD I transferred from Chaos 4 only got upgraded to "Chaos 5" and not "Chaos 7," which is why the stats were so crappy? And did I hose the MOD now because I can't put it back to a lower Chaos 5 Relic to upgrade all the way to Chaos 7?
The Virologist Mar 17, 2019 @ 8:04am 
Originally posted by Mochan:
So I have a question.

I got a Drain Aura MOD from Chaos 4 at Level 7. It deals something like 11,000dmg. I transfer it to a Chaos 6 Relic, then upgrade that to Chaos 7. When I do this, it now deals something like 12,870 damage.

BUT it's weaker than a Chaos 7 Relic with the same Drain Aura MOD that is just Level 2, but has 28,470 as a crappy red Level 2 MOD.

So does this mean that the MOD I transferred from Chaos 4 only got upgraded to "Chaos 5" and not "Chaos 7," which is why the stats were so crappy? And did I hose the MOD now because I can't put it back to a lower Chaos 5 Relic to upgrade all the way to Chaos 7?

To answer your question...

Yes, your mod only got 1 level.

No you did not lose the mod, you just have an underpowered mod. You can restart the upgrading process when you do your first ancient power reset, since that resets your character & every piece of gear you own back to beginner tier.
Mochan Mar 17, 2019 @ 9:33am 
Ah I see! Ok I have been saving up various high level mods from lower Chaos for nothing. Hhahaha. Now I feel silly, but also refreshed because now I can clean up my inventory. Chaos 7 Farming is now my new hobby.

Thanks for the answers.
Mochan Mar 17, 2019 @ 4:53pm 
LOLWUT there's Chaos 8?! I thought it was only until Chaos 7. I have more ways to go. Hahha
Xilo The Odd Mar 17, 2019 @ 5:15pm 
so in the future, hold ALT, whatever chaos level it says a chip is thats what level it is on the piece of gear.

taking a lvl 4 chip, putting it on a lvl 6 relic, and upgrading the relic to lvl 7 doesnt bring the chip lvl to 7, it brings it to the next level which is 5.

so ideally if you in chaos 7, chip farming in chaos 6 might be a lot easier, and only require your massive stockpile of chaos 7 ampules and some gold to get those chips into chaos 7 levels.
Mochan Mar 18, 2019 @ 6:57am 
Oh you can ALT a chip?! Good to know.

But yes, that's exactly what I'm doing. I'm farming Chaos 6, then upgrading it to Chaos 7.

Pristine Motes are relatively easy to get but the crafting mats are another matter entirely, even if I can solo Chaos 7 relatively easy. Whereas farming mats in Chaos 6 is fast and reliable and even easier.

So yeah what I've been doing since yesterday is farming in Chaos 6, then upgrading to Chaos 7. Today though I might be changing my routine since I got what I need for the most part, now I'm just farming Mats for Chaos 7. Ugh such a pain since it's not guaranteed.
Last edited by Mochan; Mar 18, 2019 @ 6:58am
Xilo The Odd Mar 19, 2019 @ 10:39am 
Originally posted by Mochan:
Oh you can ALT a chip?! Good to know.

But yes, that's exactly what I'm doing. I'm farming Chaos 6, then upgrading it to Chaos 7.

Pristine Motes are relatively easy to get but the crafting mats are another matter entirely, even if I can solo Chaos 7 relatively easy. Whereas farming mats in Chaos 6 is fast and reliable and even easier.

So yeah what I've been doing since yesterday is farming in Chaos 6, then upgrading to Chaos 7. Today though I might be changing my routine since I got what I need for the most part, now I'm just farming Mats for Chaos 7. Ugh such a pain since it's not guaranteed.
yeah the chaos 7 grind is a real pain. especially with those random mobs that can have way too much HP and attack power jsut subverting your defenses. its why i started using blockade towers again for just such an even they get past the stun lock fields.
skex123 Mar 19, 2019 @ 12:57pm 
If you have a C1 mod you can get it to c7 by upgrading it through every level. You can't skip levels. Costs a lot, so only worth it for rare and important mods.
Xilo The Odd Mar 19, 2019 @ 11:39pm 
Originally posted by skex123:
If you have a C1 mod you can get it to c7 by upgrading it through every level. You can't skip levels. Costs a lot, so only worth it for rare and important mods.
yeah but nothing really good drops in chaos 1. is why typically i tell people to only hold on to chips they find in chaos 6, everything else costs way too much to make it worth the effort.

BUT for decently rolled stats on gear (stuff that is like, 99% of the max it possibly could be) thats worth it to upgrade all the way. i got a near max damage relic on my weapon mfr. and got it maxed out for Chaos 7. all it needs now are high level chips and it'll be a great defense equipment.
Last edited by Xilo The Odd; Mar 19, 2019 @ 11:42pm
Galvator Mar 20, 2019 @ 4:51pm 
You can reroll, but they're a scam. all they do is eat up your hard earned tokens and motes and reward you with the lowest rolls possible. Wasted 50 of them on one mod, that STAYED at 1/10. Just store up the tokens or sell them. they're as useless as a used engine block
Mochan Mar 20, 2019 @ 10:59pm 
The rerolls are definitely a joke. Highest I ever. Got was 3/10, most are 1/10. It's literally easier and more profitable to boot to just farm for a higher level Mod.
Last edited by Mochan; Mar 20, 2019 @ 11:00pm
Asphe Mar 21, 2019 @ 10:23am 
On one paw, upgrading a 1/10 mod via re-rolling is easy. On the other paw, getting a 10/10 from a 9/10 via re-rolls... on the tail then, there is a mechanism that guarantees a 10/10 after X number of rerolls. I think X is 280 or so.

Personally, I'd settle for a 7/10. There isn't much different really, between 10/10 and even 5/50 for most mods. I'd rather have a bunch of 6/10s than a single 10/10 and a bunch of 4s and 5s. There are a few that are worth the trouble to get 10/10s though.
Mochan Mar 21, 2019 @ 4:13pm 
lol 280? Man that is sad. And upgrading a 1/10 isn't *that* easy. I had to spend like 10 rerolls just to improve a 1/10 to a 2/10. The RNG on this is seriously bad. I've decided not to do rerolls until I've maxed out all other options.
Last edited by Mochan; Mar 21, 2019 @ 4:13pm
Galvator Mar 21, 2019 @ 4:43pm 
It's not random. Random Number Generator is supposed to be random, not the "Same Number Generator" this game pulls over our eyes. I put up with it for 1000 hrs because I like repetition, but even I have limits. If the devs really want this game to survive, implement a new number generating system, or make it so it's a little more random. i've done 12(soon to be 13) resets, and i've dealt with the same nightmare over and over again, getting the same things at least 5 times before getting something new
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