Why is selling so bad? + Gear scaling?

[BOT Spin]

I spent 200k+ gold to upgrade a piece of armor, and in return I can only sell it for 200? I think that is really inefficient and keeps people from upgrading pieces to try out. Me myself, I want to see how good a piece is compared to mine, but I don't wanna upgrade it because I get nothing back in return. I just lose all my money. Plz at least give us 50% back or something.

ALSO, I still can't comprehend the gearing system. Theres nothing in the game that helps us to see whether a piece is better or not. So how can I progress if I don't know what to put on and where I'm actually suppose to be?

I believe this is a broken system, and gear should be always specific to the difficulty, no matter what gear we have on now.

[Salty Biscuit]

cause Trendy decide to rush a unfinished update, and let us test the broken stuff instead of doing testing themselves

[Nesiah]

I personally don't see a problem with not making gold off of selling stuff, i'd rather it be worthless to sell an entire inventory of gear and get my gold from completing the map instead. Otherwise i'd be literally looting every piece of gear and vendering it every wave, and that's annoying. (even with auto loot emptying an entire bag every map is tedious) Given the game now you already get plenty of gold while farming imo. 20-30k per map you complete plus 25 defender medals is actually quite a lot.

As far as the gearing goes, they should definitely make it more understood on how to upgrade gear but i love the fact you have to progress through each difficulty to get to the next, even if you're being carried you shouldn't go from campaign to chaos 5, that would make the game boring. That's why games like division have gear system quite the same... Or take diablos view on it is it's all RNG and the longer you play the higher probability you have of getting better pieces.

[BOT Spin]

I started with 16 million gold luckily.. and honestly I don't know how people that just started after Trials update are doing. But I feel like its a tough grind.

Yeah I agree you shouldnt go from campaign to chaos 5.. but one run from chaos 5 wont make you a god. it takes time regardless.. even if your getting carried its still a long process. in return you can also help others as well.. but yeah .. they can at least make it like "You must clear Chaos 1 'x' amount of times to move on to Chaos 2" so that carrying isnt to instant. But it should still be part of the game.. this is an online game, not solo.. if you dont want to get carried, then play solo.

[TheVampire100]

The gold grind is currently really aweful, I heard from many players that defenders medals are better to use than gold. That is, if you don't ever want to buy a hero with them of course.

It's even worse because all the amount of money you spent on gear is useless once you find something better. Which you will eventually.

I think a daily 2x gold bonus on the first map of the day could fix this to some amount. You always need gold anyway unless you spend only medals to upgrade.
From 20.000 to 40.000 isn't that much but it gives a head start for the day.

[Mr.B]

This whole game has turned in to some sick joke from the Trendy. They want you 2 play more, so they set massive barriers for the player to advance. Forcing you to play thousands of hours to get anything done.

Gold gain, selling prices, gear scaling, ascension lvl's, daily missions, weekly missions, needing c2 gear to beat c1, c3 for c2, c4 for c3 and so on. It is all just a freaking bad joke. They are trying to get people to play more hours in the damn game. That removes every single bit of fun, and makes it in to something only hardcore players with thousands of hours, can stay in. I had played 45 hours of C5, with maxed out c4 gear, and never won ONCE! i tried every possible combination, with all heroes in the game. Not untill they removed the 'assassin lock', could i beat it.

If you don't constantly read up on how the game works, you will never advance. There is no info on loot scaling in game, so you wont know you have to upgrade all gear, for a chance for better gear to drop. And if you upgrade all gear, to get some better gear, you can't upgrade the good gear you find coz gold. And you only get 1% gold back from a sale, so for every difficulty you move up. You need to play the lower difficulty for about 116 games, just to get the gold to upgrade the 7 main gear parts (4 gear, 1 weapon, 2 medallions). That is 3.500.000. And that is only if you find the gear you need, in the first try. And only for 1 hero.

I am a veteran player. And after the update i got 29.000.000 gold back. And i used it all + all i earned gaining levels, to get from c3 to c5. And now there are 2 more difficulties, and i can't upgrade anything. With almost 200 ascension levels, you would think i had enough gold now, right?

Its a mess. All of it is one big mess..

[The Virologist]

Originally posted by Mr.B:

This whole game has turned in to some sick joke from the Trendy. They want you 2 play more, so they set massive barriers for the player to advance. Forcing you to play thousands of hours to get anything done.

Gold gain, selling prices, gear scaling, ascension lvl's, daily missions, weekly missions, needing c2 gear to beat c1, c3 for c2, c4 for c3 and so on. It is all just a freaking bad joke. They are trying to get people to play more hours in the damn game. That removes every single bit of fun, and makes it in to something only hardcore players with thousands of hours, can stay in. I had played 45 hours of C5, with maxed out c4 gear, and never won ONCE! i tried every possible combination, with all heroes in the game. Not untill they removed the 'assassin lock', could i beat it.

If you don't constantly read up on how the game works, you will never advance. There is no info on loot scaling in game, so you wont know you have to upgrade all gear, for a chance for better gear to drop. And if you upgrade all gear, to get some better gear, you can't upgrade the good gear you find coz gold. And you only get 1% gold back from a sale, so for every difficulty you move up. You need to play the lower difficulty for about 116 games, just to get the gold to upgrade the 7 main gear parts (4 gear, 1 weapon, 2 medallions). That is 3.500.000. And that is only if you find the gear you need, in the first try. And only for 1 hero.

I am a veteran player. And after the update i got 29.000.000 gold back. And i used it all + all i earned gaining levels, to get from c3 to c5. And now there are 2 more difficulties, and i can't upgrade anything. With almost 200 ascension levels, you would think i had enough gold now, right?

Its a mess. All of it is one big mess..

You must not know how to save gold and spend everything you earn way too fast. I don't have a problem with earning gold tbh.

[Freeborn]

hmm ... well ... first i din´t use gold to upgrade a item / shard ... use medals for it ... 25 per win and 250 for a 60 upgrade item


and don´t upgrade all the items form all the 4 Heros in your Hero Deck ... upgrade only 1 Hero and use it for the fight ! .... so you need only 1k - 3k medals per chaos Tier

and upgrade only Blue + and 60 upgrades items ... if you start with a max chaos 1 lege with full 60 upgrade, you need only 2 blau items with 60 upgrades to get the max chaos 2 stat drop ... so no need to farm for legens and upgrade 15 items


PS: most of the player play solo to hav lower HP and dmg from the monster ... so if you need c3 gear for c2 ... well i din´t hav c8 gear but can win c7 -.-

[The Virologist]

Originally posted by Freeborn:

hmm ... well ... first i din´t use gold to upgrade a item / shard ... use medals for it ... 25 per win and 250 for a 60 upgrade item


and don´t upgrade all the items form all the 4 Heros in your Hero Deck ... upgrade only 1 Hero and use it for the fight ! .... so you need only 1k - 3k medals per chaos Tier

and upgrade only Blue + and 60 upgrades items ... if you start with a max chaos 1 lege with full 60 upgrade, you need only 2 blau items with 60 upgrades to get the max chaos 2 stat drop ... so no need to farm for legens and upgrade 15 items


PS: most of the player play solo to hav lower HP and dmg from the monster ... so if you need c3 gear for c2 ... well i din´t hav c8 gear but can win c7 -.-

C8 isn't even out...

[PHOENIX]

good one hydra, hope you are being sarcastic, otherwise stay away from forums

[Old Mc D]

Originally posted by Mr.B:

This whole game has turned in to some sick joke from the Trendy. They want you 2 play more, so they set massive barriers for the player to advance. Forcing you to play thousands of hours to get anything done.

Gold gain, selling prices, gear scaling, ascension lvl's, daily missions, weekly missions, needing c2 gear to beat c1, c3 for c2, c4 for c3 and so on. It is all just a freaking bad joke. They are trying to get people to play more hours in the damn game. That removes every single bit of fun, and makes it in to something only hardcore players with thousands of hours, can stay in. I had played 45 hours of C5, with maxed out c4 gear, and never won ONCE! i tried every possible combination, with all heroes in the game. Not untill they removed the 'assassin lock', could i beat it.

If you don't constantly read up on how the game works, you will never advance. There is no info on loot scaling in game, so you wont know you have to upgrade all gear, for a chance for better gear to drop. And if you upgrade all gear, to get some better gear, you can't upgrade the good gear you find coz gold. And you only get 1% gold back from a sale, so for every difficulty you move up. You need to play the lower difficulty for about 116 games, just to get the gold to upgrade the 7 main gear parts (4 gear, 1 weapon, 2 medallions). That is 3.500.000. And that is only if you find the gear you need, in the first try. And only for 1 hero.

I am a veteran player. And after the update i got 29.000.000 gold back. And i used it all + all i earned gaining levels, to get from c3 to c5. And now there are 2 more difficulties, and i can't upgrade anything. With almost 200 ascension levels, you would think i had enough gold now, right?

Its a mess. All of it is one big mess..

im doing c1 easyly solo and scratching on c2 but i already get ur feeling.
What bugs me as well (got that from my own experience):
That game is not friendly towards new players that want to play with some friends. The whole time u get the feeling that ur just getting carried bcuz ur equip is progressing so slow. You cant make own defences nor ur autos or skills do reasonable dmg. And well letting c2 players run endless campaing/c1 runs to get u competive is not cool for both imo.

[The Virologist]

Originally posted by PHOENIX:

good one hydra, hope you are being sarcastic, otherwise stay away from forums

Read what I quoted him on idiot...

[Freeborn]

Originally posted by Mr.B:

needing c2 gear to beat c1, c3 for c2, c4 for c3 and so on..

Originally posted by Freeborn:

so if you need c3 gear for c2 ... well i din´t hav c8 gear but can win c7 -.-

Originally posted by Hydra Director:

C8 isn't even out...

well i hope you hnow its only sarcasm ...

[The Virologist]

Originally posted by Freeborn:

Originally posted by Mr.B:

needing c2 gear to beat c1, c3 for c2, c4 for c3 and so on..

Originally posted by Freeborn:

so if you need c3 gear for c2 ... well i din´t hav c8 gear but can win c7 -.-

Originally posted by Hydra Director:

C8 isn't even out...

well i hope you hnow its only sarcasm ...

That isn't sacasm mate...