Loot scaling

[RasQee]

So after much try hard grinding for shards, and pouring like 10 mil gold in upgrades so far, I've been able to beat Chaos 4.
And loot scaling is ridiculous, I've expected to be at least on pair with my old NM4 gear, but this is just sad.
How will new players be able to grind it up to Chaos 5 if Chaos 4 gear will not be enough to beat Chaos 1?
Sorry Trendy but you've rushed this update, it has some positives, but mostly it's frustrating and dissapointing.

[Gnollmar]

Remove weak heroes from your deck. Drops is based on current gear.

[Astasia]

From what I've read, it's because it's not just about gear anymore. You are supposed to grind ascension as well to progress.

[VeraelHasta]

Well yeah. I was doing NM1-2 before. And I got items with armor around 900, when on Chaos1 I have drops with armor around 600. And I barely can solo chaos1 (maybe because I have only basic heroes but hey). So difficulty curve and loot drops are definitly a balance problem for now, I'm sure they will look into it soon.

[Defender]

im stuck on chaos 1 because of this lol , i don't know how to get good enough to win when the gear is complete trash and the towers seem worst now too

[Grim Reaper]

as astasia said u need to farm chaos 1 trial to get xp and shards. mainly the 40% range and 60% defense power shard.

[PENG]

But so far, after 30-40 C1 Trials and several C2 Trials, not a single range shard yet. And no 60% power shard, only 34%.

[Vanayr The Daemon]

Does anyone have a definitive guide on how this works? I'm just not figuring out what you need to progress on the gear levels :(

[NeedtoDie]

Originally posted by vanayr:

Does anyone have a definitive guide on how this works? I'm just not figuring out what you need to progress on the gear levels :(

Here you have max gear values by difficulty :
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1XxXQo-SFDOfrUQ1nq37nHItTcIEDRn80M23xWS0mfM8/edit#gid=0

Let's say you want to drop the best C3 gear.
Max value for a relic is 3500-4000 (main stat). Max value for armor is 1100-1200.
1°) Play only trials.
2°) Equip your main hero with the best gear you have in every slot and remove any other hero from hero deck before each wave.
3°) Upgrade your gear to approach current max value.
4°) Drop.
5°) Upgrade your new gear and go to C4 if you reached the current cap.

Old nightmare gear can prevent you from dropping correct values, so replace it ASAP.

[Xuhybrid]

Originally posted by Gart:

Well yeah. I was doing NM1-2 before. And I got items with armor around 900, when on Chaos1 I have drops with armor around 600. And I barely can solo chaos1 (maybe because I have only basic heroes but hey). So difficulty curve and loot drops are definitly a balance problem for now, I'm sure they will look into it soon.

If you are getting Armor 600 you are doing the Practice maps and not Trials. Nothing to be gained from doing Practice. Also, i got to C4 with only the first 4 heroes.

[bydlaq]

Originally posted by Killua:

Originally posted by NeedtoDie:

Here you have max gear values by difficulty :
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1XxXQo-SFDOfrUQ1nq37nHItTcIEDRn80M23xWS0mfM8/edit#gid=0

Let's say you want to drop the best C3 gear.
Max value for a relic is 3500-4000 (main stat). Max value for armor is 1100-1200.
1°) Play only trials.
2°) Equip your main hero with the best gear you have in every slot and remove any other hero from hero deck before each wave.
3°) Upgrade your gear to approach current max value.
4°) Drop.
5°) Upgrade your new gear and go to C4 if you reached the current cap.

Old nightmare gear can prevent you from dropping correct values, so replace it ASAP.

Nice explanation +1

Nice explanation of broken easly exploited system. But HEY buy baggs, devs have to eat.

[NeedtoDie]

They answered about fixing this, but nice complaint.

https://dungeondefenders.com/2/topic/143530/see-answer?scrollTo=1269011#1269011

[bydlaq]

That's encouraging indeed, no sarcasm here. Iam enjoying the ''end game'' more then pre ''end game''