Denuvo = no pirates

[Hexion]

Cry more pirates

[Yskar]

DENUVO it's the strong argument to also have an PS5, sadly.
Games with DENUVO aren't worth more than 1/4 of the launch price.

[Hurricane]

Originally posted by Yskar:

DENUVO it's the strong argument to also have an PS5, sadly.
Games with DENUVO aren't worth more than 1/4 of the launch price.

That was my alternate plan for some games.
However, after the Stellar Blade censorship and the Helldivers 2 PSN debacle, I don't want to give even a cent to Sony. I've cancelled my subscription and will not buy anything anymore for the PS5.

Sad state of affairs.

[Arion]

That's the Denuvo-supporters arguement every time, "Against Denuvo? You are a pirate!"

Even when they can clearly see they are wrong by looking at our profiles.

[Kittentheboss]

hmm. I have over 1k games. Me personally I don't even need to pirate this game. I have plenty enough as it is. I could wait for a crack but even then my pc probably wouldn't run it well. I could upgrade but i don't want to deal with a new CPU exploding as the market right now for the newest parts are possibly defective.

Just so you know. Section 1201 of the DMCA is the biggest grift in copyright. And you're licking it's boot. You will receive no sympathy from me.

My advise? Cope harder. Git Gud. And accept the fact people don't like DRM.

[Kittentheboss]

Originally posted by Yskar:

DENUVO it's the strong argument to also have an PS5, sadly.
Games with DENUVO aren't worth more than 1/4 of the launch price.

Sadly, with the announcement of Nintendo partnering with Denuvo in creating Anti-Emulation technology. I see this will become as much as a console problem as it has been pc's for years. I recall Microsoft during the E3 announcement of the Xbox One release. They were going to implement DRM that restricted physical copies to the first console it was inserted in. Basically going against the First Sale Doctrine. Of course they backed down from that after the backlash. That is also why i switched to PC and was so open into getting one.

The dam is gonna break man and when it does I hope people fight against it and take back ownership of the products they paid for. We need more politicians to get on this as we may end up with dead media that everyone paid for but no longer own with the obvious exception of landfills. To be fair Digital started this mess but we need to stop it at it's source.

#STOPKILLINGGAMES

[Teratus]

Originally posted by Viper:

The Denuvo complaints are 90% pirates crying because they can't steal the game.

This has been debunked over and over again, it doesn't stop pirates at all.. it barely even slows them down.

Considering Denuvo exists entirely to combat pirates the fact that it fails to do this so spectacularly makes Denuvo both worthless and useless as a counter tool.

If anything it has the complete opposite effect and encourages pirates purely on the grounds that the illegitimate version of the game can be regarded as superior to the official version because it doesn't have a useless piece of software like Denuvo potentially affecting performance and needlessly using up system resources.

It's also speaks loudly to video game ownership, as well as video game preservation which are both becoming more and more of a concern among a massive number of gamers.

These are big catalysts for people resorting to the high seas for video games which is only getting more popular every year as more and more games die off and become impossible to play anymore as well as this ridiculous narrative that our games are not really ours despite the fact we paid for them.. continues to be spread around.

This problem, these days especially.. is entirely self inflicted by the modern games industry.
It not something that even possible to fix with things like Denuvo.. and the fact that almost every game that has Denuvo right now is out there on a website somewhere for free proves it.
This is a problem the industry will only ever remedy by listening to the people who buy their products, not ignoring us or worse attacking us when things don't go their way.. which is something we've seen quite often in more recent years.

They need to understand that they do not dictate the future of the gaming industry.. we do.. the people who keep it alive with our money.
We are the gaming industry and it's by our will and our freedom of choice that every single game succeeds or fails.
And that is never going to change no matter how badly these big corporate entities or even individual developers may want it to.

[Drowning Echo]

No Denuvo on PlayStation 😎

[Yskar]

Originally posted by Hurricane:

Originally posted by Yskar:

DENUVO it's the strong argument to also have an PS5, sadly.
Games with DENUVO aren't worth more than 1/4 of the launch price.

That was my alternate plan for some games.
However, after the Stellar Blade censorship and the Helldivers 2 PSN debacle, I don't want to give even a cent to Sony. I've cancelled my subscription and will not buy anything anymore for the PS5.

Sad state of affairs.

Understandable, well play what you have offline and wait an jailbreak.

Originally posted by Kittentheboss:

Originally posted by Yskar:

DENUVO it's the strong argument to also have an PS5, sadly.
Games with DENUVO aren't worth more than 1/4 of the launch price.

Sadly, with the announcement of Nintendo partnering with Denuvo in creating Anti-Emulation technology. I see this will become as much as a console problem as it has been pc's for years. I recall Microsoft during the E3 announcement of the Xbox One release. They were going to implement DRM that restricted physical copies to the first console it was inserted in. Basically going against the First Sale Doctrine. Of course they backed down from that after the backlash. That is also why i switched to PC and was so open into getting one.

The dam is gonna break man and when it does I hope people fight against it and take back ownership of the products they paid for. We need more politicians to get on this as we may end up with dead media that everyone paid for but no longer own with the obvious exception of landfills. To be fair Digital started this mess but we need to stop it at it's source.

#STOPKILLINGGAMES

When it happens i will live from my backlog and wait all games with Denuvo gets the 15 USD treatment. If a game isn't playable totally offline the game isn't mine.
And well, now DENUVO want to target indie devs too, well, if they use it they'll fail hard like the other times indie deves used it.

[Syndrome of a Down]

you too would play pirated games if you had to pay the price of one paycheck on a single game (games are really really expensive in my country)

[MysteryK]

You didn't purchase the game like I did, and I'm waiting also for a GOG (drm free) release so I don't have to deal with this unnecessary hassle.

[Siege Lord]

I must just give my piece of pie. You see, some people actually does not earn alot per month. which will cost them almost 12.5% of their salaray per month to buy the game.. Which they need to buy food and pay expenses per month. So, like me, when I dont have any funds, I pirate the games... BUT, if its a great game, I cant play it until around 20% of the game until I buy it even if its on specail. so, for me in my country its cost R900.00... in dollars its $51... calculate that. I already dont have R900.00 laying around on top of my R8000.00 salary. But if they cancel the cracked version I cant play it. So at the end I will never support them even on specails if its the best game ever. The people stating stop piracy, have a parents allowance, or, is making a ton of money to support their habbits.

AT THE END, to the people who hates piracy, its okay, but sorry we did not grow up rich and entitled like you are.

[Hexion]

Originally posted by Эрфан Инвокер:

you too would play pirated games if you had to pay the price of one paycheck on a single game (games are really really expensive in my country)

Its ok if you pirate it, but look at those greedy people complaining and attacking because developers wants to protect their own products.

Its like complaining why do people lock their house when going out or when sleeping instead of leaving it open for me to rob.

Crack it but complaining and ranting? Come on

[Arion]

That's not the same, not even close.

Those who pirate games are mainly those who cannot afford them, or are denied from buying them (children with strict parents and such).

I too, when I was young I downloaded alot of games. My parents wouldn't agree to buy all the games I wanted, and I was computer-savvy enough to download for PC or burn them on CDs (I had a cracked 360 and a cracked PS2).

But as an adult I have my own money, I choose what to do with it. And I buy alot of games.

And yes, when it comes to Denuvo I will once again choose, and decide not to buy. I do not support using this thing.

If they put Denuvo in, they should be ready to remove it after 6 months at most. I can understand protecting the game at launch, but leaving Denuvo in forever is not acceptable.

[sYnapZiX]

Originally posted by potato:

Originally posted by rehsinuP:

maybe because only trash games with denuvo got released since a year

no, it's cause the one person doing it stopped and moved to other things

You are a little bit misinformed there buddy... Multiple scene groups are still taking on denuvo drm. Just because sh*tgirl doesn't do it anymore (because she was caught spreading malware and miners multiple times) doesn't mean automatically that no one is doing it. The problem that "no one is taking it on" is because there were no noteworhty releases an entire year that would've given any group meaningful credit (and that's all they're after in the scene).

Denuvo releases this year:

City Transport Simulator - Nobody cares
NBA2k25 - Nobody cares and unfeasable to crack because of online modes
Two Point Museum - Nobody cares
Civilization VII - Niche product, nobody cares
Quidditch Champions - Nobody cares
Dragon Quest Monsters - Nobody cares
Final Fantasy XVI - Buggy, broken, uninteresting, hence nobody cares
Fantasian - Nobody cares
Slitterhead - Nobody cares
Madden 25 - Nobody cares and unfeasable to crack because of online modes
FC25 - Nobody cares and unfeasable to crack because of online modes
Skull and Bones - Nobody cares
F1 Manager 2021 - Nobody cares
Planet Coaster 2 - Nobody cares
Dead Rising Remaster - Nobody cares
Beyond Good and Evil Remaster - Nobody cares
Avatar Frontiers of Pandora - Nobody cares
Star Wars Outlaws - Nobody cares
Prince of Persia: The Lost Crown - Nobody cares

And the list goes on and on... There is just no reason for scene groups to put any work into denuvo games for now. I'm not defending piracy but your comments are just pure nonsense. It's far easier for the scene to just wait until the DRM is removed via patch because those are games that generate zero fame in the scene. The only noteworthy release with Denuvo this year is Black Myth: Wukong and it's just 30 days since it's release.

Denuvo does nothing to aid against piracy. Over and over again it's just hurting paying customers (like myself) because pirates won't buy games anyways. It does not matter for them how long it's taking to be cracked because they won't buy it no matter what. If they can't pirate it, they wont play it.

For example: My purchased copy of RE-Village performed 15-20fps worse then the cracked release for almost 2 years. Im playing the game at 160+ fps, so yeah 15-20fps is not much but for some people with less powerful systems this could mean the difference between playing at console levels of quality & performance or the game being unplayable at all. If you have a weaker system and are on the verge of 30fps, you surely dont want to lose 15-20fps (or even more in the case of weaker systems).

[Epinephrine]

Originally posted by potato:

Originally posted by rehsinuP:

denuvo can be cracked, but take some time because only a few can actually do it.
The problem most people have are the performance lose

nobody's doing denuvo anymore, not since a year ago

Denuvo is still being cracked. It's the question of if the game is good enough to even bother.