Is TSR/FSR at 100% resolution the same thing as native?

[Swaggaccino]

Most games pretty much grey out the upscaler option when you set the resolution slider to 100%. Also I thought all UE5 games had to have some kind of upscaler because without it, it would be single digit FPS. That being said, I'm getting 60+ FPS at 4K 100% resolution with RT turned off on my 7900XT. That can't be right can it?

[DeeTeez]

RT killed my FPS lol, I have a 4090 and RT max dropped my frames down to 30-40..
I put FSR to 55 to I will not get the sudden drops in frames during fights with alot of effects.

[Swaggaccino]

Originally posted by DeeTeez:

RT killed my FPS lol, I have a 4090 and RT max dropped my frames down to 30-40..
I put FSR to 55 to I will not get the sudden drops in frames during fights with alot of effects.

RT at Very High is Path Tracing.
RT Off is Lumen.

Sounds about right for 4090 owners. Alan Wake 2 with Path Tracing at 4K/Native was making 4090s crawl at 20FPS. But the range for FPS in this game is insane. With RT Off, I'll be getting 80-90FPS one minute then 30-40FPS the next during combat. Why aren't you running DLSS?

[Neyreyan_Youtube]

Originally posted by Swaggaccino:

Most games pretty much grey out the upscaler option when you set the resolution slider to 100%. Also I thought all UE5 games had to have some kind of upscaler because without it, it would be single digit FPS. That being said, I'm getting 60+ FPS at 4K 100% resolution with RT turned off on my 7900XT. That can't be right can it?

not really, the game has no way to deactivate upscaling so at 100% FSR with frame generation, high/very high texture the game will still looky blurry even with motion blur off

[Swaggaccino]

Originally posted by Neyreyan_Youtube:

Originally posted by Swaggaccino:

Most games pretty much grey out the upscaler option when you set the resolution slider to 100%. Also I thought all UE5 games had to have some kind of upscaler because without it, it would be single digit FPS. That being said, I'm getting 60+ FPS at 4K 100% resolution with RT turned off on my 7900XT. That can't be right can it?

not really, the game has no way to deactivate upscaling so at 100% FSR with frame generation, high/very high texture the game will still looky blurry even with motion blur off

Are you sure it's due to the upscaler and not antialiasing? You can do frame gen without upscalers now. What is it upscaling if it's rendered at 100%? Typically with deferred rendering and UE5, the game looks blurry due to TAA. And there's always some amount post processing (motion blur, film grain, chromatic abberation that's on even if you set it to off in the in game menu). Look at Hellblade 2 for instance. It's a stupid trend in my opinion.

[Kabute]

Originally posted by Swaggaccino:

Most games pretty much grey out the upscaler option when you set the resolution slider to 100%. Also I thought all UE5 games had to have some kind of upscaler because without it, it would be single digit FPS. That being said, I'm getting 60+ FPS at 4K 100% resolution with RT turned off on my 7900XT. That can't be right can it?

Sounds about right. 7900XT 4KUHD FSR 100 + FG. I also utilize Lossless Scaling which gets me around 110+ FPS average with x2 ontop of the FG. Latency is seemless for an action-RPG.
BLACK MYTH: WUKONG benchmark w/ Cinematic settings except for 3 settings set to high per Hardware Unboxed optimizations:
https://ibb.co/YTF7xGQG
FB Live Gameplay:
https://www.facebook.com/share/v/1QPvuzZmjV/
(IMPORTANT! Be sure to click "Source" to ensure you are watching at the highest quality. If it's blurry, it's not playing from "Source" quality.)

Edit: Added screenshot link and gameplay link with Lossless Scaling 3.0 FG x2