Black Myth: Wukong

Black Myth: Wukong

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m0gi Aug 17, 2024 @ 9:45pm
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The SBI extortion Saga in a nutshell
[allegedly Game Science Rejected a 7,000,000 Dollar contract from Sweet Baby Inc. when being probed for DEI consultation for their first ever video game (BLACK MYTH WUKONG).]

As a response to this rejection of their service. an IGN journalist (Rebekah Valentine) dropped 3 seperate hit pieces on X about Game Science. Claiming that Game Science is a Sexist company. However these hit pieces contain maliciously mistranslated tweets that were meant to paint Game Science in a negative way.

To further fuel the fire, ScreenRant and Gamespot additionally doubled down in their reviews of BMW, referencing IGN's Hit piece on Game Science.

Ladies (probably) and Gentleman.

This is a clear Smear campaign from IGN against GS. As we know now. It failed miserably with Wukong hitting a Peak Player Count of 2.3 million players, in its first few opening days.

What are your thoughts about it? Is there news I missed?

this was gonna be steam review when it dropped (but I edited slightly for discussion)

I feel I need to point out the weird backstory this game has garnered in the west

if anyone wants to translate to chinese, I'll pin.

Additionally here is the post from Pirate Nation that claims SBI attempted to Extort from GS. (credits to eric.) this is the most we as a collective could find on whether they even did this or not. It is the leading story and it hardly works as proof. but thats what we have.
https://x.com/Pirat_Nation/status/1801457411305210241

I found the hit piece on Game Science: it is real. (rebekah has since removed her name from it)
https://www.ign.com/articles/how-black-myth-wukong-developers-history-of-sexism-is-complicating-its-journey-to-the-west
Last edited by m0gi; Aug 21, 2024 @ 1:00pm
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m0gi Aug 21, 2024 @ 10:12am 
Originally posted by Eric:
Originally posted by m0gi:
Game Science Rejected a 7,000,000 Dollar contract from Sweet Baby Inc. when being probed for DEI consultation for their first ever video game (BLACK MYTH WUKONG).

As a response to this rejection of their service. an IGN journalist dropped 3 seperate hit pieces on X about Game Science. Claiming that Game Science is a Sexist company. However these hit pieces contain maliciously mistranslated tweets that were meant to paint Game Science in a negative way.

To further fuel the fire, ScreenRant and Gamespot additionally doubled down in their reviews of BMW, referencing IGN's Hit piece on Game Science.

Ladies (probably) and Gentleman.

This is what you call a Wildly Obvious Grift from Bad Actors that runs so deep in the industry that it's become a larger problem then people care to admit.

What are your thoughts about it? Is there news I missed?

(edit)

this was gonna be steam review when it dropped (but I edited slightly for discussion)

I feel I need to point out the weird backstory this game has garnered in the west

if anyone wants to translate to chinese, I'll pin.

Youre axctually lying, source the consultation attempt and sum.

yeah ok. heres your source since apparently you dont wanna use google.
https://x.com/Grummz/status/1801596916272402496

I hate to use a post specifically from mark kearn but it is by far the most detailed
Last edited by m0gi; Aug 21, 2024 @ 10:13am
CHAO$$$ Aug 21, 2024 @ 10:14am 
Originally posted by Eric:
Originally posted by Plake:

*sigh* Thx for underlining the asylum part...

Also no source? Got it, youre all lying to be outraged about something that never happend.
https://nichegamer.com/rumor-wukong-devs-reject-7-million-extortion-from-dei-consultants/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ghXtEtk9q-Q&t=3s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XcO90drq5KQ
^very good sources on the connection in the video

youre welcome!
Last edited by CHAO$$$; Aug 21, 2024 @ 10:15am
Kain Aug 21, 2024 @ 10:14am 
I'll reserve my judgement for later, so far I haven't found conclusive evidence of extortion, or that there are bots adding positive reviews or any other theory on steam.

On the extortion part exclusively, our news outlets, specially the entertainment one is infested by wokeneess, you can have hit pieces like that which aren't even coordinated.
Eric Aug 21, 2024 @ 10:15am 
Originally posted by m0gi:
Originally posted by Eric:

Youre axctually lying, source the consultation attempt and sum.

yeah ok. https://x.com/Grummz/status/1801596916272402496

I hate to use a post specifically from mark kearn but it is by far the most detailed

Ah yes, the infamous screenshot that started all this for you weirdos. A random chinese social media account posts an allegation and to you this is proof. Incredible, i have some bridges to sell you.

Originally posted by Plake:
Originally posted by Eric:

I still see no sourceing mate. Are you still mad about things that only happen in your head? Weird.
Do I sound mad to you, or rather disappointed in being alive because I feel inclined to deal with "people" like you?

I mean, i can leave you alone with the thing that makes you mad that you cant proof and never happend. Sure thing.
Eric Aug 21, 2024 @ 10:16am 
Originally posted by CHAO$$$:
Originally posted by Eric:

Also no source? Got it, youre all lying to be outraged about something that never happend.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ghXtEtk9q-Q&t=3s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XcO90drq5KQ
^very good sources on the connection in the video

youre welcome!

None of these proof the initial claim tho, any proof on the consultancy, the sum, anything? Opinion pieces are not evidence. They litteraly all trace back to a single random social media post from china.

https://x.com/Pirat_Nation/status/1801457411305210241

This is btw the first and only source, if you wanna take ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ sources at least start at the first one.
Last edited by Eric; Aug 21, 2024 @ 10:19am
m0gi Aug 21, 2024 @ 10:17am 
Originally posted by CHAO$$$:
Originally posted by Eric:

Also no source? Got it, youre all lying to be outraged about something that never happend.
https://nichegamer.com/rumor-wukong-devs-reject-7-million-extortion-from-dei-consultants/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ghXtEtk9q-Q&t=3s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XcO90drq5KQ
^very good sources on the connection in the video

youre welcome!

pinning.

i'm at work rn and this entire thread is on fire i cannot keep up lol.

keep the clown awards coming baby :)
Plake Aug 21, 2024 @ 10:17am 
Originally posted by Kain:
I'll reserve my judgement for later, so far I haven't found conclusive evidence of extortion, or that there are bots adding positive reviews or any other theory on steam.

On the extortion part exclusively, our news outlets, specially the entertainment one is infested by wokeneess, you can have hit pieces like that which aren't even coordinated.

THAT'S the spirit:

"The hardest challenge is to be yourself in a world where everyone is trying to make you be somebody else."
E. E. Cummings
Last edited by Plake; Aug 21, 2024 @ 10:19am
CHAO$$$ Aug 21, 2024 @ 10:20am 
Originally posted by Eric:
I mean, i can leave you alone with the thing that makes you mad that you cant proof and never happend. Sure thing.
Okay so lets ignore the fact that SBI tried to extort a company for a second.

Do you think the articles by IGN etc are fair and well researched?
Why do you think those articles, with their distinct tone and quality, came to be?
Last edited by CHAO$$$; Aug 21, 2024 @ 10:21am
Kain Aug 21, 2024 @ 10:21am 
Originally posted by m0gi:
Originally posted by Eric:

Youre axctually lying, source the consultation attempt and sum.

yeah ok. heres your source since apparently you dont wanna use google.
https://x.com/Grummz/status/1801596916272402496

I hate to use a post specifically from tmark kearn but it is by far the most detailed
This is not a proof though, take Hogwarts Legacy for instance.

That game was hounded by countless hit pieces despite following every single inclusivity guide line, it has trans characters, people of color and so on and yet it hadn't received a almost no award despite being last year's most well sold game. The reason? Harry Potter's creator is allegedly a terf.

This is how our media works, maybe by design, but I don't see proof that this game is target of extortion by SBI or whoever. Having said that It's not an impossible scenario either, which is why I'll just observe for a while.
Eric Aug 21, 2024 @ 10:23am 
Originally posted by CHAO$$$:
Originally posted by Eric:
I mean, i can leave you alone with the thing that makes you mad that you cant proof and never happend. Sure thing.
Okay so lets ignore the fact that SBI tried to extort a company for a second.

Do you think the articles by IGN etc are fair and well researched?

No actually, lets not ignore the fact that you and nobody else was so far able to provide evidence of this extortion.

The IGN review was pretty good tbh, if there was any other opinion pieces where someone was mad for diversity reasons then thats that. Youre spinning a web of intrique that is litteral fueled by 2 "woke" people being mad and a single chinese post claiming extortion.

Proof. The. Extortion.
Last edited by Eric; Aug 21, 2024 @ 10:24am
m0gi Aug 21, 2024 @ 10:24am 
Originally posted by CHAO$$$:
Originally posted by Eric:
I mean, i can leave you alone with the thing that makes you mad that you cant proof and never happend. Sure thing.
Okay so lets ignore the fact that SBI tried to extort a company for a second.

Do you think the articles by IGN etc are fair and well researched?
Why do you think those articles, with their distinct tone and quality, came to be?

This^^^
Plake Aug 21, 2024 @ 10:25am 
Originally posted by Eric:
Originally posted by CHAO$$$:
Okay so lets ignore the fact that SBI tried to extort a company for a second.

Do you think the articles by IGN etc are fair and well researched?

No actually, lets not ignore the fact that you and nobody else was so far able to provide evidence of this extortion.

The IGN review was pretty good tbh, if there was any other opinion pieces where someone was mad for diversity reasons then thats that. Youre spinning a web of intrique that is litteral fueled by 2 woks people being mad and a single chinese post claiming extortion.

Proof. The. Extortion.

How about you PROOF that the IGN smear campaign against this dev was valid? As soon as you do that, you will DROWN in proof, I promise.
CHAO$$$ Aug 21, 2024 @ 10:25am 
Originally posted by Eric:
The IGN review was pretty good tbh,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ghXtEtk9q-Q&t=3s

I cant argue with someone who thinks this is good journalism. If you decide your reality can be whatever you want it to be you might as well tell me the world is flat. Nothing i could do about it.
Eric Aug 21, 2024 @ 10:26am 
Originally posted by CHAO$$$:
Originally posted by Eric:
The IGN review was pretty good tbh,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ghXtEtk9q-Q&t=3s

I cant argue with someone who thinks this is good journalism. If you decide your reality can be whatever you want it to be you might as well tell me the world is flat. Nothing i could do about it.

Good as in rating, not journalism. Nice deflection, afterall you couldnt proof it.


"As GameScience’s debut action game, Black Myth: Wukong is mostly a great success, despite some major technical black marks and localization issues that are likely to cause some frustrations at launch. Combat is fantastic thanks to a great balance of careful resource management and lightning-fast, twitch-reaction gameplay that tested my skills as much as Elden Ring ever has, despite being a more traditional action game than FromSoftware’s style. Not only that, but there are a ton of exciting boss battles, a great variety of enemies, and the world they inhabit is an absolute treat for the eyes and ears. Its story has its moments but relies a bit too much on having prior knowledge of the events of Journey to the West, and it really could have used a map to make its rewarding exploration measure up to the strength of its combat. That said, its strengths more than carry it through, making Black Myth: Wukong a great action game that could be even greater if GameScience can squash the bugs. "

This is btw the verdict of the IGN review. How can you claim this is a smear campaign? lmao
Last edited by Eric; Aug 21, 2024 @ 10:30am
Eric Aug 21, 2024 @ 10:28am 
Originally posted by Plake:
Originally posted by Eric:

No actually, lets not ignore the fact that you and nobody else was so far able to provide evidence of this extortion.

The IGN review was pretty good tbh, if there was any other opinion pieces where someone was mad for diversity reasons then thats that. Youre spinning a web of intrique that is litteral fueled by 2 woks people being mad and a single chinese post claiming extortion.

Proof. The. Extortion.

How about you PROOF that the IGN smear campaign against this dev was valid? As soon as you do that, you will DROWN in proof, I promise.

Youd first have to proof a coordinated smear campaign for me to proof it was "valid" (?) Why would i even wanna do that? Im not here for IGN, im here to argue with you shills that your entire drama is built on a single chinese social media post.
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