The Journey to the West

[Googledebunker]

Black Myth: Wukong is a game based on Journey to the West which is a satire about Chinese society, and Bureaucracy.

It was meant to demonstrate how Buddhism, Taoism, and Confucianism can coexist.

"The characters in Journey to the West represent the various faiths in China. Throughout their journey, the characters show how they are very different, yet they manage to coexist."

Sun Wukong (also known as The Monkey King), is a Taoist deity, and a Buddhist deity
Buddhism has an ideal based on "Dim" (Also known as Yugen in Japanese Buddhism) it means:

"mysterious profundity
Dim (Yūgen) means the beauty that we can feel sense into an object, even though the beauty doesn't exist in the literal sense of the word and cannot be seen directly."
This ideal is commonly interpreted as an expression in the appreciation of change, the creation and transformation of something into nothing, or nothing into something, a circular ebb and flow of life and spirituality.

According to the three traditional sacred Buddhist scriptures in the Tripitaka, sexuality can be divided into four categories: female, male, ubhatobyañjanaka and Pandaka

ubhatobyañjanaka refers to intersex or literally a person with the signs of both binary sexes/genders.

The Triptaka is a collection of Buddhist scripture beginning as early as the 1st century BCE

Another massively successful game with a story based on what would now be considered "woke" by some westerners. So glad to see the support of so many Westerners of these ideologies of co-existence, acceptance and appreciation of the now, and what the future brings.

[Ice.River]

Publicado originalmente por Mister Magician:

Publicado originalmente por Ice.River:

Removing the headband represents freeing one's nature and gaining liberty.

freedom is Responsibility, so that's silly.

Let me get back to the game setting. The game is set after Sun Wukong has completed his mission and wants to return to “Huaguo Shan" to live a peaceful life.
However, the Heavenly Court doesn't trust him, always fearing that he will grow powerful again and rebel. This is why the heavenly soldiers are sent to destroy "Huaguo Shan".
To give a somewhat imperfect analogy, it's like Superman defeating the villains and retiring, but politicians see someone like him as a constant threat and ultimately seek to destroy him.

[Ice.River]

According to Journey to the West, after Sun Wukong completed his mission, the "Golden Headband" naturally disappeared. However, in the game's adaptation, the headband doesn't truly vanish. Instead, it becomes a backdoor for controlling Wukong, which can only be removed through physical death. Wukong's spirit is then collected by the "Heavenly Mandate Man" and ultimately transformed into a new Wukong.

[Mister Magician]

Publicado originalmente por Ice.River:

According to Journey to the West, after Sun Wukong completed his mission, the "Golden Headband" naturally disappeared. However, in the game's adaptation, the headband doesn't truly vanish. Instead, it becomes a backdoor for controlling Wukong, which can only be removed through physical death. Wukong's spirit is then collected by the "Heavenly Mandate Man" and ultimately transformed into a new Wukong.

Yes, I know, I discuss that in the thread.

The bigger retcon is that he forgets all his lessons learned just to contrive this story.

[CaityKillzz]

Interesting..Honestly I'm so glad more people in the West are being introduced to the beauty of Chinese mythology and culture thanks to this game. I've been a fan of Sun Wukong for a very long time. I've watched multiple adaptations, read tons of articles, and read through all 100 chapters of the Journey To The West novel.^-^

And while I deeply respect the original novel for its influence and cultural impact it's had over the centuries, I can't help but feel conflicted about how Sun Wukong's character was handled. The novel starts with him as the ultimate rebel, challenging the heavens and blazing his own path, but as the story progresses, he gets tamed and molded into a tool for spreading Buddhism. I get that this is how the story was meant to go, especially given its religious themes, but seeing Wukong, who once stood for defiance and independence, become subdued is frustrating to me.

Honestly, if it weren't for Sun Wukong, Journey To The West wouldn't have the same iconic status. He carries the story and is the reason it resonates with so many people, including me. Without him, the novel wouldn't be nearly as popular.

That's why I personally prefer adaptations like Monkey King Hero Is Back. It potrays Wukong's redemption in a way that feels more natural and less forced. His kindness is drawn out by the goodness in others, not through submission and fear. It's a refreshing take that stays true to the spirit of Wukong while offering a different perspective on his journey.

[Ice.River]

Publicado originalmente por Mister Magician:

Publicado originalmente por Ice.River:

According to Journey to the West, after Sun Wukong completed his mission, the "Golden Headband" naturally disappeared. However, in the game's adaptation, the headband doesn't truly vanish. Instead, it becomes a backdoor for controlling Wukong, which can only be removed through physical death. Wukong's spirit is then collected by the "Heavenly Mandate Man" and ultimately transformed into a new Wukong.

Yes, I know, I discuss that in the thread.

The bigger retcon is that he forgets all his lessons learned just to contrive this story.

I read some of your views on Journey to the West in your post. There are many inaccuracies in your description of the story of Sun Wukong.

I understand that this game lacks some background knowledge for people who have not learned about Journey to the West. But the idea of ​​comparing heaven to the CCP is a bit ridiculous.
If you say so, it can also be compared to heaven being the hegemony of the US dollar, and Wukong being other countries that want to break free from the hegemony of the US dollar.

Shoot the arrow first, then draw the target

[Mister Magician]

Publicado originalmente por Ice.River:

Publicado originalmente por Mister Magician:

Yes, I know, I discuss that in the thread.

The bigger retcon is that he forgets all his lessons learned just to contrive this story.

I read some of your views on Journey to the West in your post. There are many inaccuracies in your description of the story of Sun Wukong.

I understand that this game lacks some background knowledge for people who have not learned about Journey to the West. But the idea of ​​comparing heaven to the CCP is a bit ridiculous.
If you say so, it can also be compared to heaven being the hegemony of the US dollar, and Wukong being other countries that want to break free from the hegemony of the US dollar.

Shoot the arrow first, then draw the target

Not at all.

There are plenty of pro-ccp "deconstructions" of wukong, but this doesn't feel like that.

[Ice.River]

Publicado originalmente por RebelMonkeyRiifs:

Interesting..Honestly I'm so glad more people in the West are being introduced to the beauty of Chinese mythology and culture thanks to this game. I've been a fan of Sun Wukong for a very long time. I've watched multiple adaptations, read tons of articles, and read through all 100 chapters of the Journey To The West novel.^-^

And while I deeply respect the original novel for its influence and cultural impact it's had over the centuries, I can't help but feel conflicted about how Sun Wukong's character was handled. The novel starts with him as the ultimate rebel, challenging the heavens and blazing his own path, but as the story progresses, he gets tamed and molded into a tool for spreading Buddhism. I get that this is how the story was meant to go, especially given its religious themes, but seeing Wukong, who once stood for defiance and independence, become subdued is frustrating to me.

Honestly, if it weren't for Sun Wukong, Journey To The West wouldn't have the same iconic status. He carries the story and is the reason it resonates with so many people, including me. Without him, the novel wouldn't be nearly as popular.

That's why I personally prefer adaptations like Monkey King Hero Is Back. It potrays Wukong's redemption in a way that feels more natural and less forced. His kindness is drawn out by the goodness in others, not through submission and fear. It's a refreshing take that stays true to the spirit of Wukong while offering a different perspective on his journey.

I like Monkey King Hero Is Back too.

[vongogh]

Publicado originalmente por Ice.River:

Publicado originalmente por Mister Magician:

Yes, I know, I discuss that in the thread.

The bigger retcon is that he forgets all his lessons learned just to contrive this story.

I read some of your views on Journey to the West in your post. There are many inaccuracies in your description of the story of Sun Wukong.

I understand that this game lacks some background knowledge for people who have not learned about Journey to the West. But the idea of ​​comparing heaven to the CCP is a bit ridiculous.
If you say so, it can also be compared to heaven being the hegemony of the US dollar, and Wukong being other countries that want to break free from the hegemony of the US dollar.

Shoot the arrow first, then draw the target

Yup, that guys a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥, he thinks CCP rewrote Journey to the West. OMG what a loser.

[Mad Marduk]

That was seriously dishonest lol. You really put the effort in on this troll though, I’ll give you that.

[Googledebunker]

Publicado originalmente por Ice.River:

According to Journey to the West, after Sun Wukong completed his mission, the "Golden Headband" naturally disappeared. However, in the game's adaptation, the headband doesn't truly vanish. Instead, it becomes a backdoor for controlling Wukong, which can only be removed through physical death. Wukong's spirit is then collected by the "Heavenly Mandate Man" and ultimately transformed into a new Wukong.

About 18 years ago I went with my father up to Richmond Canada to spend some time learning Tai Shing Pek Kwar forms for the fist and staff from the then Grand Master Chan Sau Chung Each move is related to observations of different types of monkeys fighting styles in addition to the stories of Sun Wu Kung in Hsi Yu Chi.

Each part of the forms had symbology and meaning to them, and it was a truly incredible experience to spend a few weeks training with him as my sifu and his son my Sihing,
It's an extremely acrobatic Kung Fu style, and it was really tough, even with a background in Gymnastics.
I am grateful for the experience, I just wish I could've stayed longer and learned more.

He did give me a wax wood staff that I still use to practice the beginner and some intermediate forms, but I can't do all of the intermediate staff forms anymore unfortunately.

My father is a huge fan of Kung Fu and Chinese culture and philosophy, so I grew up learning Wing Tsun he had already been teaching under Grand Master Leung Ting for 11 years before I was born. The training was intense, but well worth the experience and opportunities it opened. Getting to meet several grand masters from the 1970's era Kung Fu movies was so damn cool, and those experiences left a permanent impression on how I view eastern and western philosophies. The Kung Fu community always felt like such a warm welcoming and inclusive family to me.

[小树不倒]

Publicado originalmente por Phishfood:

I must have missed the part about coexisting because everyone seems to hate everyone else.

Because Game Science did not write the plot according to the Journey to the West. They just want to continuie the story of the online game Dou Zhan Shen created by the main creators ten years ago.

[Googledebunker]

Publicado originalmente por 小树不倒:

Publicado originalmente por Phishfood:

I must have missed the part about coexisting because everyone seems to hate everyone else.

Because Game Science did not write the plot according to the Journey to the West. They just want to continuie the story of the online game Dou Zhan Shen created by the main creators ten years ago.

Ooo that is good to know! did Dou Zhan Shen ever release in the west? I tried searching for it and didn't have any luck finding it.

[Mister Magician]

Publicado originalmente por Marlon Brandolorian:

Publicado originalmente por 小树不倒:

Because Game Science did not write the plot according to the Journey to the West. They just want to continuie the story of the online game Dou Zhan Shen created by the main creators ten years ago.

Ooo that is good to know! did Dou Zhan Shen ever release in the west? I tried searching for it and didn't have any luck finding it.

https://kotaku.com/becoming-a-demigod-tencents-asura-online-ascends-chin-1457978181

https://www.mmogames.com/game/asura-online

https://youtu.be/SHTu0KklmFU?si=1c8YCxk6sO2-G-AI

took a few seconds to find. looks like lost ark with some wow elements.

also there's a bunch of action figures (everyone is white and the women have watermelon breasts and are nearly naked all the time lol).

[Googledebunker]

Publicado originalmente por Mister Magician:

Publicado originalmente por Marlon Brandolorian:

Ooo that is good to know! did Dou Zhan Shen ever release in the west? I tried searching for it and didn't have any luck finding it.

https://kotaku.com/becoming-a-demigod-tencents-asura-online-ascends-chin-1457978181

https://www.mmogames.com/game/asura-online

https://youtu.be/SHTu0KklmFU?si=1c8YCxk6sO2-G-AI

took a few seconds to find. looks like lost ark with some wow elements.

also there's a bunch of action figures (everyone is white and the women have watermelon breasts and are nearly naked all the time lol).

Very cool! thanks for finding it. Looks like it's still alive and kicking, just unfortunately not translated into English. Looks pretty fun and I would've given it a shot had it been localized.

Not sure if you like dark twists on other stories but have you heard of Soul Sacrifice? came out in 2013 for the PS Vita, and the lore entries for the various enemies were pretty good.

https://youtu.be/QpxoxxXZJAs?list=PLDSLNdf0Nmz2aJSCtNS-igZPoV1JjEFuN

[Mister Magician]

Publicado originalmente por Marlon Brandolorian:

Publicado originalmente por Mister Magician:

https://kotaku.com/becoming-a-demigod-tencents-asura-online-ascends-chin-1457978181

https://www.mmogames.com/game/asura-online

https://youtu.be/SHTu0KklmFU?si=1c8YCxk6sO2-G-AI

took a few seconds to find. looks like lost ark with some wow elements.

also there's a bunch of action figures (everyone is white and the women have watermelon breasts and are nearly naked all the time lol).

Very cool! thanks for finding it. Looks like it's still alive and kicking, just unfortunately not translated into English. Looks pretty fun and I would've given it a shot had it been localized.

Not sure if you like dark twists on other stories but have you heard of Soul Sacrifice? came out in 2013 for the PS Vita, and the lore entries for the various enemies were pretty good.

https://youtu.be/QpxoxxXZJAs?list=PLDSLNdf0Nmz2aJSCtNS-igZPoV1JjEFuN

I got that game the day it came out, I also hated every part of it.

that story is pure evil.