Yellow Loong

[Mr. Bubbles]

So.. I'm not proud of this... But I've been stuck on the yellow loong since the day the game released.

I have yet to be able to beat him, and I haven't really moved on, or done any of the other bosses past the relief of the fallen loong shrine. I've done some grinding in the area's prior and built up my sparks and all that, but I just cannot get his pattern down, and every time I think I'm getting close he does something I don't expect and I just lose.

I dunno if Getting gud is gonna work here, cuz I just legit cannot.

[amazingbeavis]

In the beginning and sometimes during the fight he will just randomly slowly walk around if you are not attacking him and aren't too close (I think). If you do it from far enough, you can land a fully charged heavy attack when he does that.

Also, there is this combo he does when he goes up in the air and drops on your from above several times. Some of those drops need to be dodged quickly as he telegraphs, but some (i think last ones) are slightly delayed. He does a lot of damage with those, so getting the timing for that combo will help a lot.

[Mr. Bubbles]

I'm afraid you might not understand my situation.

I know what all his attacks are. But it doesn't matter because I have to guess on the timings. The perfect dodges are all hit or miss with him so far, and I haven't been able to beat him because even though I know what moves are coming, I can't figure out the patterns or the timings.

Sometimes the game seems to slow down or speed up every time he moves, and I can never tell where the dodge timing is, and for some of his attacks if I don't perfect dodge, I'll get caught by the follow up attack.

I've been dealing with this for almost the whole year, it's genuinely depressing.

[sharkosaurus]

during his first phase of air attacks watch his arm holding the weapon closely, if it starts stretching out towards his right dodge after a second or less, if it goes to his left dodge after a second, using the rock spell can cancel his air attacks if you land it on his first dash towards you after he charges up.

if you have yin tiger transform use it when his attack strings start stretch out for a long time to very quickly build up focus using block and then use windwalker and spam light attack
if you cannot handle the combos using pillar stance you can avoid some of the ground attacks when you have 3 focus points

keep in mind this boss, like yin tiger isn't balanced for the progression you are at when you find his boss, go continue the chapter and get more points and pills.

[amazingbeavis]

I would say if you don't know the timings that means you don't really know the attacks. Some attacks may look similar, but they are not the same, so the timings are different. You can tell what it's actually going to be either by knowing which attack it is in the combo or by looking at the differences in the telegraph. For example the air attacks may look the same, but does he move is spear to the left or to the right or above his head as he attacks? The differences are subtle but they are there, so if you recognize them, you will know the timing (dodge immediately or wait until is arm is outstretched?).
I recommend you watch some Youtube videos that do a detailed breakdowns of the boss moves so you understand the timings.
And like others suggested ignore him for now, finish the chapter and then come back, because he is too hard for when you first meet him.

Worst case scenario just cheese him with the charged attack that I mentioned or use WeMod. It's a single player game, nobody cares... but try the other suggestions first.

[Mr. Bubbles]

Originally posted by amazingbeavis:

I would say if you don't know the timings that means you don't really know the attacks. Some attacks may look similar, but they are not the same, so the timings are different. You can tell what it's actually going to be either by knowing which attack it is in the combo or by looking at the differences in the telegraph. For example the air attacks may look the same, but does he move is spear to the left or to the right or above his head as he attacks? The differences are subtle but they are there, so if you recognize them, you will know the timing (dodge immediately or wait until is arm is outstretched?).
I recommend you watch some Youtube videos that do a detailed breakdowns of the boss moves so you understand the timings.
And like others suggested ignore him for now, finish the chapter and then come back, because he is too hard for when you first meet him.

Worst case scenario just cheese him with the charged attack that I mentioned or use WeMod. It's a single player game, nobody cares... but try the other suggestions first.

Yeah no, i refuse to cheese him.

And the reason I don't know the timings is because every time he moves, the frame rate randomly changes, so what should be 2 seconds delay becomes 3, or sometimes becomes only half of 1.

I have gotten him to one hit from death at least 5 times, and Each time I mistime a dodge and he two shots me. By the point that I get there, I'm out of mana, drinks, and ebon flow is on cooldown.

I told you i've been on this SAME FIGHT, since the game released. I have almost 160 sparks from grinding all the enemies up to this guy every time I get close to beating him, thinking just a little more points will get me over the hurdle. I know every single one of his moves, I know exactly what the tell is. But the Timing is randomized BECAUSE the frame rate is inconsistent.

it's genuinely not a skill issue, it's a hardware issue, and my skill is not enough to compensate for it. Maybe you can beat him on 5 frames per second in between either 120 or 30 seconds of 80 frames per second, but that randomly placed freeze where I have to guess when to input my dodge and hope it resolves accurately is not something I can do.

And i'm not going to respond to you anymore because the mere fact that you suggested cheesing him has made me unreasonably furious with you.

If I wanted to do something so lame, i'd go play yoshi's story in my underwear.

[SeekerHammerdin]

Originally posted by Mr. Bubbles:

Originally posted by amazingbeavis:

I would say if you don't know the timings that means you don't really know the attacks. Some attacks may look similar, but they are not the same, so the timings are different. You can tell what it's actually going to be either by knowing which attack it is in the combo or by looking at the differences in the telegraph. For example the air attacks may look the same, but does he move is spear to the left or to the right or above his head as he attacks? The differences are subtle but they are there, so if you recognize them, you will know the timing (dodge immediately or wait until is arm is outstretched?).
I recommend you watch some Youtube videos that do a detailed breakdowns of the boss moves so you understand the timings.
And like others suggested ignore him for now, finish the chapter and then come back, because he is too hard for when you first meet him.

Worst case scenario just cheese him with the charged attack that I mentioned or use WeMod. It's a single player game, nobody cares... but try the other suggestions first.

Yeah no, i refuse to cheese him.

And the reason I don't know the timings is because every time he moves, the frame rate randomly changes, so what should be 2 seconds delay becomes 3, or sometimes becomes only half of 1.

I have gotten him to one hit from death at least 5 times, and Each time I mistime a dodge and he two shots me. By the point that I get there, I'm out of mana, drinks, and ebon flow is on cooldown.

I told you i've been on this SAME FIGHT, since the game released. I have almost 160 sparks from grinding all the enemies up to this guy every time I get close to beating him, thinking just a little more points will get me over the hurdle. I know every single one of his moves, I know exactly what the tell is. But the Timing is randomized BECAUSE the frame rate is inconsistent.

it's genuinely not a skill issue, it's a hardware issue, and my skill is not enough to compensate for it. Maybe you can beat him on 5 frames per second in between either 120 or 30 seconds of 80 frames per second, but that randomly placed freeze where I have to guess when to input my dodge and hope it resolves accurately is not something I can do.

And i'm not going to respond to you anymore because the mere fact that you suggested cheesing him has made me unreasonably furious with you.

If I wanted to do something so lame, i'd go play yoshi's story in my underwear.

Maybe bring a few graphics settings down to up the FPS, or set an FPS cap so it's more consistent.

What settings were you using anyway? And what's your hardware?

[Xengre]

OP, some tips that may hopefully help:

go to Xu and give him / reset your celestial pill allotment to have investment into the lightning resistant ones. The 1 mind core cost makes them an insane value option and this doesn't only reduce status effect (which lightning also boosts dmg u take... with its debuff) but also directly reduces lightning dmg itself. This stacks on top of armor investment for further reduction. Use the lightning pill consumable, too, proactively not just to remove the debuff but also because it also reduces his lightning damage.

For the boss when he is in his crazier attack patterns if you can't Decoy at the time you will transform. You mentioned being out of Might to transform. If you have those might pills (in case you forgot about them) try using those to recharge might so you can transform again (maybe while in decoy from a prior dodge phase use like 1-2x so later on u need 0 by time u need to transform or can just use a single one instead of needing to animate using all 3 at once).

You could save your monkey clones for the boss when he gets to 40% HP and then summon them, rather than using earlier in the fight, thus making the later part of the fight easier instead of harder. Just use charging heavy attacks when they're summoned as he will always block you and every clone if you use a varied combo light > heavy.

[Naz]

Sorry but if youve been stuck on this boss for so long surely you cannot just blame the frames maybe its time to respec.

Have you tried not just perfect dodging but moves like tactical retreat + forceful thrust? Its pretty safe, does damage and lets you get free hits in especially if you use immobilise.

[amazingbeavis]

I mean we're trying to help you, not sure why you get upset.

[S b JapAnese]

你可以在网上看看视频攻略，有很多种打法流派可以帮到你

[Bardiche]

if nothing else works; try to break the fight down in your head and just focus on being able to consistently dodge one type of move first, then progressively build up from there step by step.

its not a crazy hard fight but if you are just an exceptionally slow adaptor/learner then take this grind approach

[sharkosaurus]

if you want to easily just get free damage in, the moment you see hes about to attack (when he raises his weapon over his shoulder) use rock solid (upgraded to max) and then immediately heavy attack using pillar stance, whenever you rock solid him he will try to command grab, so using pillar stance heavy attack does damage AND cancel his command grab.

use yin tiger to tank his air attacks instead of when he is on the ground for ez focus

[Samurai Goldfish]

Originally posted by Mr. Bubbles:

So.. I'm not proud of this... But I've been stuck on the yellow loong since the day the game released.

I have yet to be able to beat him, and I haven't really moved on, or done any of the other bosses past the relief of the fallen loong shrine. I've done some grinding in the area's prior and built up my sparks and all that, but I just cannot get his pattern down, and every time I think I'm getting close he does something I don't expect and I just lose.

I dunno if Getting gud is gonna work here, cuz I just legit cannot.

first visit to the discussions because of this boss.

i am in the same boat. i am legit just putting this game down never to be finished because of this fight. every other fight i have found a way to break through. no combination of different game mechanics can get me through this.

[Fahrenheit]

Originally posted by Mr. Bubbles:

Originally posted by amazingbeavis:

I would say if you don't know the timings that means you don't really know the attacks. Some attacks may look similar, but they are not the same, so the timings are different. You can tell what it's actually going to be either by knowing which attack it is in the combo or by looking at the differences in the telegraph. For example the air attacks may look the same, but does he move is spear to the left or to the right or above his head as he attacks? The differences are subtle but they are there, so if you recognize them, you will know the timing (dodge immediately or wait until is arm is outstretched?).
I recommend you watch some Youtube videos that do a detailed breakdowns of the boss moves so you understand the timings.
And like others suggested ignore him for now, finish the chapter and then come back, because he is too hard for when you first meet him.

Worst case scenario just cheese him with the charged attack that I mentioned or use WeMod. It's a single player game, nobody cares... but try the other suggestions first.

it's genuinely not a skill issue, it's a hardware issue

No more advice for you

[ApolloRed]

Thrust stance is the way to go with yellow loong, look up YouTube there are many guids for this fight or any other boss. Thrust stance trivializes the fight, he lets you charge 3 fp heavys for free almost every time, only thing you need to watch out for is he charges and the extended combo in p2. Stun vessel from act 2 helps. I just beat him in NG+++ when i was writing this. Or>>>
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aj69eMzHQVU&ab_channel=Elbethium
Also read the comments. I hope it helps!