White Noble - difficulty spike?

[adamiecz]

I've basically gave up on the game trying to defeat the White Noble. I ground my way to level 21 and to my surprise the boss actually started doing more damage to me (I read somewhere that the bosses scale in this game, which is some epic level of ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ if you ask me). I love the look and style of the game, and loved everything until the White Noble fight, but now I'm stuck and I don't really want to waste more of my limited time trying to beat the guy if this is how it's going to be for the rest of the game. Are all the bosses afterward this impossible? For the record I completed the likes of Dark Souls and Bloodborne in the past, but this is some new level. I don't know how people can possibly compare this to God of War...

[avil]

Try respecing your sparks into one of the stances as much as possible, and use strong points of said stance. If you really that cornered, try watching a video. I mean, it's one of the easier bosses... So yeah, it'll only get worse from there.

[DragonMaster]

Holy **** i thought Dark Souls and Bloodborne players crush this game...

[Xafron Chi]

Originally posted by adamiecz:

I've basically gave up on the game trying to defeat the White Noble. I ground my way to level 21 and to my surprise the boss actually started doing more damage to me (I read somewhere that the bosses scale in this game, which is some epic level of ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ if you ask me). I love the look and style of the game, and loved everything until the White Noble fight, but now I'm stuck and I don't really want to waste more of my limited time trying to beat the guy if this is how it's going to be for the rest of the game. Are all the bosses afterward this impossible? For the record I completed the likes of Dark Souls and Bloodborne in the past, but this is some new level. I don't know how people can possibly compare this to God of War...

I don't really understand how people are getting stuck on him this long.

I forget how much stuff there is before White Noble, but it might be worth checking this to see if there's any useful items you missed before him.

Beyond that maybe you need to change up your strategy in some way, do a different build.

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3312640114

And no not every boss is that "impossible" (it's not impossible). But if you're struggling against him that much, you're likely going to struggle even more on some in later chapters.

Edit:

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3312886997

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3313975374

Maybe look up a Youtube video too.

[mrorange]

agree, unnecessary difficult, a bit boring to grind and grind

[KING]

Originally posted by mrorange:

agree, unnecessary difficult, a bit boring to grind and grind

It is as grindy as your skill is. I've only played 16 hours & I am already on Chapter 5 of 6. The game doesn't actually require much grind, not like true souls titles

[redhongkong]

try to train urself in the woods , i get like lv25 or 26 when i challenge it.
i use light kick to build up focus and jump backward smashing him when he spin toward me.
save all the HP mana and spells for the 2nd phase.
took me 3 hours to figure out how to save all my hp and mana for the 2nd phase

[SOFAGUS]

idk, around level 25 i started feeling a bit overpowered. Only few bosses reqired more than one try. And then i reached end of chapter 4...

[Gienah Corvi]

Originally posted by redhongkong:

try to train urself in the woods , i get like lv25 or 26 when i challenge it.
i use light kick to build up focus and jump backward smashing him when he spin toward me.
save all the HP mana and spells for the 2nd phase.
took me 3 hours to figure out how to save all my hp and mana for the 2nd phase

^ This is good advice. The snake forest is a good little mini grind spot in Chapter 1 for sure.

I was stuck on the White Clad noble for quite some time. You just have to persevere and grind if necessary. Definitely worth moving down the skill tree that lets you continue the light attack combo while dodging. The Wandering Wight ability is quite key on this.

Generally you can keep your distance to get a breather, but I found it easier to get in close enough to bait him into attacking and then countering and beating him down accordingly. Definitely utilize the fire wolf transformation, as well as the immobilize spell as often as possible.

Other than that it's just a matter of getting the muscle memory down for his moveset and dodging accordingly. It took me a while I admit, but I'm at the Tiger Vanguard in Chapter 2 now so hah.

[mrorange]

Originally posted by KING:

Originally posted by mrorange:

agree, unnecessary difficult, a bit boring to grind and grind

It is as grindy as your skill is. I've only played 16 hours & I am already on Chapter 5 of 6. The game doesn't actually require much grind, not like true souls titles

I am not good. I prefer easy games. Frustrating.

[adamiecz]

Originally posted by avil:

Try respecing your sparks into one of the stances as much as possible, and use strong points of said stance. If you really that cornered, try watching a video. I mean, it's one of the easier bosses... So yeah, it'll only get worse from there.

Thanks, that's all I needed to know. I will shelf the game for now. Sadly I get a few hours a week to play tops, and I simply cannot afford to waste all this time on one boss, with all likelihood that I will get even more stuck down the line. At this rate I will complete the game in 2050 lol. If I was on PC, I would have used a trainer just to power through, but alas no such option on PS5 :D

[iiisixstringiii]

Don't worry, I was stuck on this boss for a super long time, too. But I do think he's a skill check. Kinda like Genichiro in Sekiro.

After beating him, I had no problem with the next 3-4 bosses afterwards. So yeah, he's a brick wall, but once you break 'em down, the other bosses aren't to bad. But I'm only in the end of Chapter 2, and I've heard Chapter 3 is where it gets INSANELY difficult. But I guess the difficulty really just depends on the player. I myself am 35 and I take meds that really mess with my reaction times, but I cope by using caffeine to give me a kick.

When I'm locked in, I'm really kicking ass, but when I'm feeling groggy, I get my ass kicked, lol. Ya' know, good days and bad days.

[Sheepo]

My advice is to take the boss slow and don't get greedy. Learn it's attack patterns and go in for a couple hits and back out when he starts his attack combo.

[The Royal Pain]

The White Noble is rough but a trick I found is that he does not deal with jumping lights well in the first phase. They're usually enough to prompt an attack string from him, which thanks to the jumping light bouncing you off will give you some breathing room to perfect dodge his swings.

The 'double donk' perk with smash stance, where you can chain two strong attacks in a combo, is nice to really lay on damage if you can start a light attack string, and don't hesitate to use the fire-staff transformation. Hell, don't be afraid to use everything. The snake boss you just beat can be used to poison him for some more chip damage.

You don't have to be crazy high level, I think I managed around 10-13? It's just a learning experience, and your 'baptism' to the rest of the game.

[lostsoul9999]

Originally posted by adamiecz:

I've basically gave up on the game trying to defeat the White Noble. I ground my way to level 21 and to my surprise the boss actually started doing more damage to me (I read somewhere that the bosses scale in this game, which is some epic level of ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ if you ask me). I love the look and style of the game, and loved everything until the White Noble fight, but now I'm stuck and I don't really want to waste more of my limited time trying to beat the guy if this is how it's going to be for the rest of the game. Are all the bosses afterward this impossible? For the record I completed the likes of Dark Souls and Bloodborne in the past, but this is some new level. I don't know how people can possibly compare this to God of War...

first phase of white noble is the only hard part about him imo, his second phase was super easy, just gotta learn when to attack and when to dodge, if you can beat dark souls you can beat this guy easy

[icks]

Was the first boss I decided to respec around using pole stance and I did it 1st try once I did. Your heavy attack range is just so much bigger, which really helps.
I remember before I respecced that I grinded some levels in little snakeforest zone a bit earlier until I was also about lv 20-22

Don't give up. Try to analyze the bosses if you're stuck on them and try to adapt with the skilltree. The game just lets you change it with zero cost anyway.

Meanwhile I am done with a NG+ run which was already so much easier because you learn so much from all the dying in the normal run. Fishboy went down 1st try in that run and it felt GREAT :D

It's rage enducing sometimes but when you finally get the f*cker down, it just feels nice!

GLHF!