Breakable wall in chapter 2!?

[Citronvand]

I just stumbled upon this information that you need to use a special attack against a seemingly random wall to find a secret in chapter 2. My question is, how the hell are you supposed to figure this out on your own?

[MidnightMist]

This game took a lot of inspiration from Dark Souls, but went 1000x in the wrong direction, in regards to "how the ♥♥♥♥ was I supposed to know to do that"

[RubyCante]

Originally posted by Citronvand:

I just stumbled upon this information that you need to use a special attack against a seemingly random wall to find a secret in chapter 2. My question is, how the hell are you supposed to figure this out on your own?

there is an NPC dialog that told you about it

[Citronvand]

Originally posted by RubyCante:

there is an NPC dialog that told you about it

Who? And what exactly did he say?

[Hurricane]

The rat prince broke that wall for me.

edit:

You've learned about it because others have found it one way or another. So it's obviously possible to learn about it.

[Grimzy]

Originally posted by Citronvand:

Originally posted by RubyCante:

there is an NPC dialog that told you about it

Who? And what exactly did he say?

You would know if you didnt just skip things or not pay attention.
Here is a tip: there are a few more secrets that are being mentioned in cutscenes and dialogs.

[Citronvand]

Originally posted by Grimzy:

You would know if you didnt just skip things or not pay attention.
Here is a tip: there are a few more secrets that are being mentioned in cutscenes and dialogs.

So you can't tell me who gave the hint and what he said. Got it.

Originally posted by Hurricane:

The rat prince broke that wall for me.

edit:

You've learned about it because others have found it one way or another. So it's obviously possible to learn about it.

I bet that some people got lucky with the boss and he broke the wall, then they made that information available on the Internet and people found out that you could also destroy it with certain attacks. What I want to know is if there are reasonable hints in game so you can figure it out on your own if the boss didn't break the wall. Or if it is just some ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ design.

[RubyCante]

Originally posted by Citronvand:

Originally posted by RubyCante:

there is an NPC dialog that told you about it

Who? And what exactly did he say?

its the dude that give your gourd the ability to absorb spirit, can be found on 1 of the meditation spot in 2nd area, he told about the Loong story bla bla bla

[Dev]

Originally posted by MidnightMist:

This game took a lot of inspiration from Dark Souls, but went 1000x in the wrong direction, in regards to "how the ♥♥♥♥ was I supposed to know to do that"

This game requires nuance & lots of reading if you want to fully unlock/experience it. What’s funny is this game in terms of how it obscures some content behind reading about it, listening to NPCs etc. is no different than other games like Elden Ring (the dreaded comparison). Yet people praise that game for it’s obscurity but complain here. That is hypocritical or just plain bias unmasked.

Then you have those complaining this game is too simple, too straight forward. But when you tell them most of the game requires exploration, piecing together story, subtext, etc. they complain the game is too hard or not intuitive to follow when it’s literally worse in Elden Ring…

[MidnightMist]

Originally posted by Dev:

Originally posted by MidnightMist:

This game took a lot of inspiration from Dark Souls, but went 1000x in the wrong direction, in regards to "how the ♥♥♥♥ was I supposed to know to do that"

This game requires nuance & lots of reading if you want to fully unlock/experience it. What’s funny is this game in terms of how it obscures some content behind reading about it, listening to NPCs etc. is no different than other games like Elden Ring (the dreaded comparison). Yet people praise that game for it’s obscurity but complain here. That is hypocritical or just plain bias unmasked.

Then you have those complaining this game is too simple, too straight forward. But when you tell them most of the game requires exploration, piecing together story, subtext, etc. they complain the game is too hard or not intuitive to follow when it’s literally worse in Elden Ring…

You literally agreed with me and then called me a hypocrite lol

[Pulowski]

Originally posted by MidnightMist:

This game took a lot of inspiration from Dark Souls, but went 1000x in the wrong direction, in regards to "how the ♥♥♥♥ was I supposed to know to do that"

bs, you know for a fact you only know what to do cus you googled it on the wiki

[Dou B Jin]

This is a lot of cases with older game secret stuff. Enough people get knocked into the area that words of mouth. I didn't trigger it at all because I manage to kill the king first which meant he didn't run to first prince. I only realized what I missed after looking it up after clearing the chapter.

[MidnightMist]

Originally posted by Pulowski:

Originally posted by MidnightMist:

This game took a lot of inspiration from Dark Souls, but went 1000x in the wrong direction, in regards to "how the ♥♥♥♥ was I supposed to know to do that"

bs, you know for a fact you only know what to do cus you googled it on the wiki

Another person who didn't understand what I said lol

[Citronvand]

Originally posted by RubyCante:

its the dude that give your gourd the ability to absorb spirit, can be found on 1 of the meditation spot in 2nd area, he told about the Loong story bla bla bla

Thank you, I know who you are talking about and I remember talking to him. Took awhile to find this since he is gone in my game but this is what he said:

Hurled by gales, to and fro, changed from our former glow.
When the Loong King defied the Court, the Jade Emperor was set to punish his entire house.
The four sons of the Loong King, deities of the four waters, fled.
Deities? Not even they have control over their destinies.
Once caught in the threads of karma, all are mere offerings on the platter.
Four loongs for the four waters under the sky. Their destiny is sealed, as yours and mine.

I have no idea how that helps anyone to hit a seemingly random wall with a special attack to uncover a secret though.

Originally posted by Dev:

This game requires nuance & lots of reading if you want to fully unlock/experience it. What’s funny is this game in terms of how it obscures some content behind reading about it, listening to NPCs etc. is no different than other games like Elden Ring (the dreaded comparison). Yet people praise that game for it’s obscurity but complain here. That is hypocritical or just plain bias unmasked.

Then you have those complaining this game is too simple, too straight forward. But when you tell them most of the game requires exploration, piecing together story, subtext, etc. they complain the game is too hard or not intuitive to follow when it’s literally worse in Elden Ring…

For the record I'm not a fan of Elden Rings (and Dark Souls) obscure storytelling. But the games have limited player messages to help you find stuff, like hidden pathways. Wukong doesn't have that and I'm not saying it should have that. But it shouldn't be based on luck or external information whether you find a secret or not.

[Pulowski]

Originally posted by MidnightMist:

Originally posted by Pulowski:

bs, you know for a fact you only know what to do cus you googled it on the wiki

Another person who didn't understand what I said lol

koala brain

[Fahrenheit]

Originally posted by Grimzy:

Originally posted by Citronvand:

Who? And what exactly did he say?

You would know if you didnt just skip things or not pay attention.
Here is a tip: there are a few more secrets that are being mentioned in cutscenes and dialogs.

Sorry but where? I'm one of the slowest players on earth as I try to explore and do everything, but nowhere did it mention the location of this loong scale