Steam reviews don't mean anything. Keep ranting.

[Batabii • Suikoden I&II HD]

Nobody should take them seriously. It doesn't matter if it's overwatch 2 or any game on the website, if they're not outright spam or joke nonsense, it's just randos trying to get some community milestone thing. If people really had a legitimate reason to "not recommend" a game, they wouldn't be going off on tangents or posting stupid jokes, they'd actually have a well-written and thought-out explanation why the GAMEPLAY ITSELF is bad, not just "haha porn", "blizzard bad", or "waaah where's my pve you promised pve" and literally no other information. There's still tons of people both on steam and off playing at any given time, and anyone who is GENUINELY interested in trying out the game would read professional reviews that actually make a point and have standards. Hell, you can try it out for free. Who needs reviews? The only part of the game that's paywalled that ISN'T purely cosmetic is just the Invasion missions. And people seem to forget that Underworld is also free pve. Sure it's limited time, but so what? The Archives were too.

Clown me all you want, I don't care. I'm being serious and honest here, and that's just free points for me. I expect this forum to be a dumpster fire anyway.

[Batabii • Suikoden I&II HD]

People need to realize: I'm NOT defending the paywalls, and I'm NOT defending the workplace issues with Blizzard, or their alleged china controversy. I'm saying neither of these things justifies the review bombing spam, nor makes the gameplay itself bad, and I'm saying that steam reviews should never be taken seriously, recommend or not recommend.

I just feel really bad for steam's moderation team right now. There's only so much they can do to combat the waves of off-topic threads, porn spam, and toxicity specific to the steam community.

[Boby Happy]

cause you should be taken seriously ?

[5812381312183238422879]

There are years of videos from people criticizing the game. They moved on, it's not their responsibility to log into steam and review the game for you.

[[Unintelligible]]

Agred! The TF2 fans are mad!!
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3020028609

[Russ Rockjaw]

26k Current players on steam
100k negative reviews

Ratio

[Batabii • Suikoden I&II HD]

https://twitter.com/SYACVG/status/1691147702791188484

[󠀡󠀡Neodymetrick]

One question if they do not mean anything, how come you need to make a thread about them then? It just seems like you want people to stop giving it bad reviews.

[Batabii • Suikoden I&II HD]

Originally posted by ✵︎Neodymetrick✵:

One question if they do not mean anything, how come you need to make a thread about them then? It just seems like you want people to stop giving it bad reviews.

bad reviews are fine if they actually have proper justification and explanation, but most of them don't.

Also I want people to stop taking this supposed "overwhelmingly negative" response so seriously.

[Razen]

Oh reviews do matter a LOT. Imagine if you're a new player and see OW2 on steam (which will not be recommended now btw thanks to the massive negative reviews) with those reviews... you're most likely not going to play it. And thats very good. Blizzard needs to learn how to treat its players and female employees or go down burning.

[Batabii • Suikoden I&II HD]

Originally posted by Razen:

Imagine if you're a new player and see OW2 on steam (which will not be recommended now btw thanks to the massive negative reviews) with those reviews... you're most likely not going to play it.

I can't imagine just seeing a number, not reading one single review, and saying "well, I'll just take their word for it". Especially on steam reviews, of all places.

Originally posted by Batabii • Pikmin 4:

anyone who is GENUINELY interested in trying out the game would read professional reviews that actually make a point and have standards.

[Puppy]

Originally posted by Batabii • Pikmin 4:

Originally posted by Razen:

Imagine if you're a new player and see OW2 on steam (which will not be recommended now btw thanks to the massive negative reviews) with those reviews... you're most likely not going to play it.

I can't imagine just seeing a number, not reading one single review, and saying "well, I'll just take their word for it". Especially on steam reviews, of all places.

Originally posted by Batabii • Pikmin 4:

anyone who is GENUINELY interested in trying out the game would read professional reviews that actually make a point and have standards.

Professional reviews are generall bought out by companys. Proven by Polygon, and other pro gaming journos. Your professional reviews mean nothing when you are reviewed into oblivion by the whole community. https://www.metacritic.com/game/pc/overwatch-2

[Razen]

Originally posted by Batabii • Pikmin 4:

Originally posted by Razen:

Imagine if you're a new player and see OW2 on steam (which will not be recommended now btw thanks to the massive negative reviews) with those reviews... you're most likely not going to play it.

I can't imagine just seeing a number, not reading one single review, and saying "well, I'll just take their word for it". Especially on steam reviews, of all places.

Originally posted by Batabii • Pikmin 4:

anyone who is GENUINELY interested in trying out the game would read professional reviews that actually make a point and have standards.

Most people don't have the slightest interest in reading "Professional" reviews... I mean you cant compare yourself to the very casual player who just scrolls through steam and occasionally clicks on a game to try it out. You really think those people would after seeing the page and the review score then go on to YouTube to watch a 15 minute review?? No... those people see "overwhelmingly negative" and move on. Especially if it's over 100000 reviews. If it was only a couple you could say "don't take their word for it" but 100000? Thats VERY indicative of massive problems with the game.

And who the hell trusts "pro" reviews at this point? I'd much rather trust 100000 people (who didn't get paid by Acti/Blizzard) than some random dude who has been bought out.

[Batabii • Suikoden I&II HD]

Originally posted by Razen:

Originally posted by Batabii • Pikmin 4:

I can't imagine just seeing a number, not reading one single review, and saying "well, I'll just take their word for it". Especially on steam reviews, of all places.

Most people don't have the slightest interest in reading "Professional" reviews... I mean you cant compare yourself to the very casual player who just scrolls through steam and occasionally clicks on a game to try it out. You really think those people would after seeing the page and the review score then go on to YouTube to watch a 15 minute review?? No... those people see "overwhelmingly negative" and move on. Especially if it's over 100000 reviews. If it was only a couple you could say "don't take their word for it" but 100000? Thats VERY indicative of massive problems with the game.

And who the hell trusts "pro" reviews at this point? I'd much rather trust 100000 people (who didn't get paid by Acti/Blizzard) than some random dude who has been bought out.

Again, it's about the context. whether you agree or not, professional reviews at least explain themselves properly. They tell you about the game and explain why they do or do not like it. Steam reviews suck and people still rate joke reviews as "helpful" which makes it hard to find the real ones.

[F1st Br34k3r]

Originally posted by Russ Rockjaw:

26k Current players on steam
100k negative reviews

Ratio

The thing about the people who are adamant about defending defending this game is they don't realize that this is correlated to actual potential.

If those 100k negatives were positive we'd also see a player count of 500k+ instead of JUST 26k.

If Andrew Tate has 26k people supporting him and 100k are against him I doubt anyone would say the guy is good just because he still has 26k supporters. Yes, Andrew Tate has 25,999 more people that support him in comparison to me, that still doesn't mean he isn't a POS.

Most of the player base is hate-playing the game. The sad part is that you could hand Overwatch 2 to someone else and the chances of their development results being 9% positive reviews is probaby low.

Blizzard thrives on hate-playing. Diablo 4? Overwatch 2? WoW and WoW Classic? It seems Activision-Blizzard realized that the hate gets them more money for much less.

[Razen]

Originally posted by Batabii • Pikmin 4:

Originally posted by Razen:

Most people don't have the slightest interest in reading "Professional" reviews... I mean you cant compare yourself to the very casual player who just scrolls through steam and occasionally clicks on a game to try it out. You really think those people would after seeing the page and the review score then go on to YouTube to watch a 15 minute review?? No... those people see "overwhelmingly negative" and move on. Especially if it's over 100000 reviews. If it was only a couple you could say "don't take their word for it" but 100000? Thats VERY indicative of massive problems with the game.

And who the hell trusts "pro" reviews at this point? I'd much rather trust 100000 people (who didn't get paid by Acti/Blizzard) than some random dude who has been bought out.

Again, it's about the context. whether you agree or not, professional reviews at least explain themselves properly. They tell you about the game and explain why they do or do not like it. Steam reviews suck and people still rate joke reviews as "helpful" which makes it hard to find the real ones.

And again, casuals (who are the vast majority of players) don't bother to go that far. They don't bother looking up and watching a review. My girlfriend and my sister are both what i would call very casual players. Neither have ever watched a review. Same as some friends and family members. And it shows doesn't it? The game is not even a week on here and has 25k players right now on steam. For Overwatch that is abysmal. And you can't tell me that 91% negative reviews didn't play a BIG part in that. If it was the other way around im sure it would have 100k+ players now easily.

And what do you mean steam reviews suck? The game is a battle pass, lootbox, coin infested slot machine and the company behind it is known for the worst practices in all of gaming. How is that score not deserved? Are steam reviews perfect? Nah but they are far more accurate to the actual state of the game than some IGN schmuck that gets told what to say by Activision.

Originally posted by Batabii • Pikmin 4:

They tell you about the game and explain why they do or do not like it.

Nah dude that's rare these days. Most of the time the publisher tells the reviewer what to say and puts down a chunk of change for good measure. And that has been proven in abundance by Polygon.