Why is it ok for Valve to delete CS:GO for CS2 but not for Blizzard to do the same?

[i know kung fu]

Topic.

[i know kung fu]

Your Dad (Real) a écrit :

i know kung fu a écrit :

im sure there will be a HUGE communty. like it's as small as OW1 private servers i assume... you don't think everyone will just be playing CS2?

did you also miss me saying blizzard nuked OW1 servers and no community servers existed in this game. You must be trolling, say you are trolling because otherwise you must be dense. there is 10k players at peak in OG cs And servers here are 100% community. AND THAT'S JUST ON STEAM. Same for CS:S but with 4k at peak. There are servers that run BETA CS to this very day.

And yes, everyone will be playing CS2, but while every single person on earth can play literally every other version of the game that has seen the day since year 1998. While it's simply not possile in OW1 because the only servers there belonged to blizzard and they disabled them with transition to OW2.

blizzard "nuked" the vanilla wow servers
it hasn't stopped people playing it (the real old vanilla wow without the fruit bowl women)
why did OW1 being destroyed "nuke" it? get better at decompiling.

[KopHuLLloH]

i know kung fu a écrit :

Aidenel a écrit :

Because they didn't promise a huge PvE expansion to be the whole point of adding the 2 only to scrap it, and all the existing microtransactions making the game a lot more expensive overall.

do i need to link the knife unboxing youtubers again? the mtx of lootboxes are far worse and more predatory. glad there's no lootboxes now.

do i need to pull al the articles that point out how valve FOUGHT with gambling and making it as legit as possible while blizzard literally went the opposite way?

[i know kung fu]

Your Dad (Real) a écrit :

i know kung fu a écrit :

do i need to link the knife unboxing youtubers again? the mtx of lootboxes are far worse and more predatory. glad there's no lootboxes now.

do i need to pull al the articles that point out how valve FOUGHT with gambling and making it as legit as possible while blizzard literally went the opposite way?

...valve's fighting gambling?
coulda fooled me.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wvis-5GlKfQ
"blizzard went the opposite way"
by removing lootboxes? valve are the ones that still uses them.

[KopHuLLloH]

i know kung fu a écrit :

Your Dad (Real) a écrit :

did you also miss me saying blizzard nuked OW1 servers and no community servers existed in this game. You must be trolling, say you are trolling because otherwise you must be dense. there is 10k players at peak in OG cs And servers here are 100% community. AND THAT'S JUST ON STEAM. Same for CS:S but with 4k at peak. There are servers that run BETA CS to this very day.

And yes, everyone will be playing CS2, but while every single person on earth can play literally every other version of the game that has seen the day since year 1998. While it's simply not possile in OW1 because the only servers there belonged to blizzard and they disabled them with transition to OW2.

blizzard "nuked" the vanilla wow servers
it hasn't stopped people playing it (the real old vanilla wow without the fruit bowl women)
why did OW1 being destroyed "nuke" it? get better at decompiling.

as i already said multiple times:
fella doesn't undersrand the difference between open source and closed networks

you are way to clueless to argue with you... I am truly sorry

[i know kung fu]

get skin on ow2 = buy it
get skin in csgo = https://i.imgur.com/p6nymfj.png
valve: TRUST US THERES NOTHING SHADY WE DONT PROMOTE GAMBLING WE JUST SELL KEYS FOR BOXES THAT HAVE THE FUNCITON OF GAMBLING
pathetic

[KopHuLLloH]

i know kung fu a écrit :

Your Dad (Real) a écrit :

do i need to pull al the articles that point out how valve FOUGHT with gambling and making it as legit as possible while blizzard literally went the opposite way?

...valve's fighting gambling?
coulda fooled me.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wvis-5GlKfQ
"blizzard went the opposite way"
by removing lootboxes? valve are the ones that still uses them.

I said gambling and you present me the video of case unboxing
Dude, plz, get some awareness, i literally can't.

One company gives you a chance of a cosmetic for real money and prohibits third party from profiting and scamming non-knowers while still making profits by providing service within boundries

Another one asks money to help gain advangage and new mechanics while previously only asking money for the chance of a cosmetic.

I beg you, stop being so clueless, it's been a drag to try and have conversation to you

[festivneer]

i know kung fu a écrit :

get skin on ow2 = buy it
get skin in csgo = https://i.imgur.com/p6nymfj.png
valve: TRUST US THERES NOTHING SHADY WE DONT PROMOTE GAMBLING WE JUST SELL KEYS FOR BOXES THAT HAVE THE FUNCITON OF GAMBLING
pathetic

get one game affecting character in overwatch 2: 10 dollars
cs:go and tf2: all gameplay influencing content is available for free

[KopHuLLloH]

i know kung fu a écrit :

get skin on ow2 = buy it
get skin in csgo = https://i.imgur.com/p6nymfj.png
valve: TRUST US THERES NOTHING SHADY WE DONT PROMOTE GAMBLING WE JUST SELL KEYS FOR BOXES THAT HAVE THE FUNCITON OF GAMBLING
pathetic

again, confuses gambling with a case opening
i'll rephrase since you clearly aren't on the same level with the rest of people here:
you confuse the economy that exists OUTSIDE the videogame with the one that exists ONLY INSIDE one

And while Valve enforces the latter in their product
Blizzard enforces a completely different thing which is paying for a GAMEPLAY advantage.

Do you understand my point? If it's too hard, read what @festivneer wrote above, he simplified it

[Butt Binky]

I'm not 100% in the know about CS, but if they are doing the same thing and shutting down the predecessor to force people towards the "sequel", I think they deserve just as much criticism. I've always hated this practice, ever since Crysis 2 servers were shut down for the inferior Crysis 3.

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i know kung fu a écrit :

Topic.

It's, something, but if you really follow what's happening between the relation of those two, Blizzard themselves is full of problems and controversies than Valve themselves has less of 'em.

Though, seeing the hate for OW2 itself, the game as a whole isn't most of the problem, it existed because of the promise of a huge PvE mode which it was going to be a paid game for that itself, which in the end, they cancelled it, almost entirely (We have Invasion instead, cheap PvE knockoff), the community mostly hated it because of this change, I necessarily don't hate them, but I felt something worse than hate, disappointment, the sheer incompetence Blizzard been doing, sad really.

I'll be frank with you, Overwatch, is an okay or maybe a good game, but Blizzard, made the game bad for the state it is in now.

As for CS2, they didn't even promise anything, it was just out of the blue, there were playtesters, the majority liked the changes, I know some or few disliked it, but they eventually adapted, once people get comfortable with it, it just gets deployed eventually.
Valve has been pretty chill from what I've seen.

[Mari Christmas]

dunno why you nerds can't just let people enjoy things

always has to be a petty competition

[Schorsch Wadschinken]

i know kung fu a écrit :

get better at decompiling.

Reverse-engineering. When you make these inane arguments, at least get the terminology right.

[KopHuLLloH]

Seal of Approval a écrit :

i know kung fu a écrit :

get better at decompiling.

Reverse-engineering. When you make these inane arguments, at least get the terminology right.

dude i'm your fan at this point.

[Applesocks]

because ow2 was branded as a new game with a pve gamemode that was canceled, cs2 is advertised as a upgrade with Minor changes.

[TwisTeD SenSe]

Valve didnt hype CS 2 up as a mainly pve gamemode with a bunch of rpg elements and then after hooking suckers in for a year they didn't say "SIKE, you ain't getting what it was advertised for".

Valve also never said CS GO will stay around, while the nice folks at Blizz promised on several ocassions Overwatch 1 and Overwatch 2 will be separate games and you can play them anytime.