Can someone tell me why the teams in OW ranked are so desperately unbalanced?

[AAAkaneAAA]

How can the matchmaker spend time making a game where 1 team can hardly leave spawn?

[ComposedJam]

The matchmaker has a LOT of factors to consider, and even more that it cannot consider, when creating a match. It doesn't know who is tilted, who is throwing, who is on a hot-streak, who is going to choose a character they aren't good with, who will refuse to cooperate with the team, etc

It only has certain statistics to go off of when creating a game

Could it be better? I'd hope so, but creating even matches in this game is very difficult

[AAAkaneAAA]

Maybe its just bad at doing its job.

[hypadao]

The thing is, the matchmaker doesn’t consider which hero you play. So sometimes, you end up with the worst comp possible, and other times, you get the greatest OTP team comp of all time.

Often, you don’t have time to figure out what comp to play with your teammates. That’s why so many tryhards only play META hero this way, they can expect their team to know how to play around them.

The only way OW could ever be balanced is if everyone mirror the same comp on the same map!
Until then, you should either communicate with your teammates so they understand the playstyle you want, or just fill the comp.

[Sunsetter]

They're unbalanced because they're meant to be unbalanced.

[:)]

Originally posted by ComposedJam:

It doesn't know who is tilted, who is throwing, who is on a hot-streak, who is going to choose a character they aren't good with, who will refuse to cooperate with the team, etc

Some of this data matchmaking should be given access to, and some of it is absolutely still available (to an extent) and can be fed into it.

[AAAkaneAAA]

its just a mess really. The predictable easy win followed by easy lose with leavers every couple of games. This game isnt a serious choice for someone who doesnt like his time wated.

[Mochan]

Stomps are all down to team comp, hero counters and the inability of one team to work as a team.

People still believe the matchmaker isn't doing its job and are matching Bronze ranks with GM players, and have all these stupid theories about EOMM and rigged matchmaking, it's all nonsense.

The real reason stomps happen are as said. It's just bad team comps and people not knowing what to do when they are countered. Your team is not working together while the enemy team happens to have good teamwork. And all this happens by chance with the MM -- you're all on roughly the same level of skill win/rate but one team happened to put players who happen to work together whereas the other team got players whose styles don't mesh.

And in metal ranks this happens and nobody tries to switch to fix the issues because at this level most people have no clue what's happening, so it's a stomp all the way.

[Mochan]

Originally posted by Samael:

They're unbalanced because they're meant to be unbalanced.

This kind of nonsense rhetoric again.

Stomps largely only happen at lower skill level metal rank play, and it happens because the people here have no clue what they are doing and don't even realize why they are losing. Both teams are roughly on the same level of skill but one team just happened to go into a good team comp and teamwork, the other team didn't or went with a team comp that is hard countered by the enemy team comp, and since nobody actually realizes what is going on it just looks like a stomp of unmatched skill levels but in actuality it's all team comp and teamwork (or lack of it). And once the initial stomping happens moral plummets and people get tilted and there's no recovering from that.

This is why all the shrubs who have been complaining about counterpicking are bad for the game. They don't actually bother to learn the game, they just want to play who their one trick all the time and hope for the best. And that's why they keep getting into pure stomp matches.

The game is design around counterpicks and understanding how heroes work against and with other heroes. Embrace that or go back to Call of Duty.

[AAAkaneAAA]

Its already been proved that the matchmaker is broken. You've got to be living under a rock to think its doing its job. The age of shilling for companies is coming to an end. Nobody believes Blizzard is doing its job correctly, youre a dying breed.

Originally posted by Mochan:

Originally posted by Samael:

They're unbalanced because they're meant to be unbalanced.

This kind of nonsense rhetoric again.

Stomps largely only happen at lower skill level metal rank play, and it happens because the people here have no clue what they are doing and don't even realize why they are losing. Both teams are roughly on the same level of skill but one team just happened to go into a good team comp and teamwork, the other team didn't or went with a team comp that is hard countered by the enemy team comp, and since nobody actually realizes what is going on it just looks like a stomp of unmatched skill levels but in actuality it's all team comp and teamwork (or lack of it). And once the initial stomping happens moral plummets and people get tilted and there's no recovering from that.

This is why all the shrubs who have been complaining about counterpicking are bad for the game. They don't actually bother to learn the game, they just want to play who their one trick all the time and hope for the best. And that's why they keep getting into pure stomp matches.

The game is design around counterpicks and understanding how heroes work against and with other heroes. Embrace that or go back to Call of Duty.

[hypadao]

Originally posted by AAAkaneAAA:

Its already been proved that the matchmaker is broken.

"when i throw games i lose and when i tryhard i win this must mean that the matchmaking is broken"

Yeah that a proof, you conviced me.

[AAAkaneAAA]

No its the multiple accounts from same person stuck at different ranks. Nail in the coffin for OW matchmaking system. Showed it up for what it was. Have you not realised, most people have left now.

Originally posted by hypadao:

Originally posted by AAAkaneAAA:

Its already been proved that the matchmaker is broken.

"when i throw games i lose and when i tryhard i win this must mean that the matchmaking is broken"

Yeah that a proof, you conviced me.

[hypadao]

Originally posted by AAAkaneAAA:

No its the multiple accounts from same person stuck at different ranks. Nail in the coffin for OW matchmaking system. Showed it up for what it was. Have you not realised, most people have left now.

Because you think that people are robot that always play the same ? And that they deserve always the same rank ?

More seriously if you are talking about the matchmaker who give you a better rank than you deserve just because of the calibration thing you are right. But considering that everyone should have a 3 divison wide ranking this not mean much

The devs should use the same manipulation techniques than MR and start putting everyone in bronze and then making them climb with a 45% winrate, This is SO MUCH better for engagement, i swear those OW devs hates money, where is Bobby when we need him ?

[AAAkaneAAA]

Nope, if the matchmaker produces wildly different ranks for the same person with large numbers of games on each account, its obviously broken. Sorry to break it to you if you thought that had nothing to do with it.

Originally posted by hypadao:

Originally posted by AAAkaneAAA:

No its the multiple accounts from same person stuck at different ranks. Nail in the coffin for OW matchmaking system. Showed it up for what it was. Have you not realised, most people have left now.

Because you think that people are robot that always play the same ? And that they deserve always the same rank ?

More seriously if you are talking about the matchmaker who give you a better rank than you deserve just because of the calibration thing you are right. But considering that everyone should have a 3 divison wide ranking this not mean much

The devs should use the same manipulation techniques than MR and start putting everyone in bronze and then making them climb with a 45% winrate, This is SO MUCH better for engagement, i swear those OW devs hates money, where is Bobby when we need him ?

[hypadao]

Originally posted by AAAkaneAAA:

Nope, if the matchmaker produces wildly different ranks for the same person with large numbers of games on each account, its obviously broken. Sorry to break it to you if you thought that had nothing to do with it.

You can "pove" the same thing in every ranked game (it is called a smurf), so i don't know what you are proving with your point except that OW work like most other games.

When the thermometer is broken (the player), temperature mean nothing

[AAAkaneAAA]

Yes, its proof. If many people have wildly different ranks with same player, thats called proof. Its documented and their are videos about it. Thats proof. Maybe not in your little world, but really who cares about your little world? People look to reality.

Originally posted by hypadao:

Originally posted by AAAkaneAAA:

Nope, if the matchmaker produces wildly different ranks for the same person with large numbers of games on each account, its obviously broken. Sorry to break it to you if you thought that had nothing to do with it.

You can "pove" the same thing in every ranked game (it is called a smurf), so i don't know what you are proving with your point except that OW work like most other games.

When the thermometer is broken (the player), temperature mean nothing