sombra is still unfun to play against

[Callmematt]

sombra's main issue was her hack and perma invisibility and what did they do? gave her more dmg a dmg ability and didn't change her invisibility or the ability to just make u not play the game . her new play style is just the same as before expect you get to stay in the fight longer and kill things faster if ur a tank player who plays dive u just have no fun right now caus every game is a sombra qp or ranked + u can no longer leave qp games to not play against sombra orisa comps unless u want a ban

[shawty]

Originalmente postado por Kartofan:

I've been playing Sombra for the last few days, and I take back my words that she needs to be nerfed. Yes, she became stronger against some characters, but she also became weaker against others. It is also difficult to implement in the backline, and if the players stand in pairs or there are illari, then it is unrealistically difficult to kill the backline, you must first break the healing pylon, run away, return back where they are already waiting for you, plus it is not always easy to hit moving characters with the virus, many people suddenly start to move aside when you throw a virus. Also, if you attack the backline very often you will be detected ahead of time, you will not always be able to escape. Thus, Sombra requires a lot of play on the frontline, and if you attack the backline, you will often waste time and set up your team to lose. I also played against Soldier 76, and I killed him easily on Sombra, but when Sombra played against me on Soldier 76, I beat them 95% of the time. Therefore, I was wrong that Sombra became stronger than Soldier 76, I also double-checked this at the shooting range. Sombra therefore has the lowest win rate in the game. She had an average win rate of 44.27% in competitive, in Season 7 it increased to 47.78%, but this is not a high value, it's below average. Thus, anyone complaining about Sombra has a huge problem with the skill.
https://www.overbuff.com/heroes/sombra?platform=pc&gameMode=competitive&hero=sombra

Wow, it's almost as if immediately jumping the gun and deducing that a character is broken based on a rework that hasn't even been out for two weeks is moronic!

[THAT Guy]

Originalmente postado por shawty:

Originalmente postado por Kartofan:

I've been playing Sombra for the last few days, and I take back my words that she needs to be nerfed. Yes, she became stronger against some characters, but she also became weaker against others. It is also difficult to implement in the backline, and if the players stand in pairs or there are illari, then it is unrealistically difficult to kill the backline, you must first break the healing pylon, run away, return back where they are already waiting for you, plus it is not always easy to hit moving characters with the virus, many people suddenly start to move aside when you throw a virus. Also, if you attack the backline very often you will be detected ahead of time, you will not always be able to escape. Thus, Sombra requires a lot of play on the frontline, and if you attack the backline, you will often waste time and set up your team to lose. I also played against Soldier 76, and I killed him easily on Sombra, but when Sombra played against me on Soldier 76, I beat them 95% of the time. Therefore, I was wrong that Sombra became stronger than Soldier 76, I also double-checked this at the shooting range. Sombra therefore has the lowest win rate in the game. She had an average win rate of 44.27% in competitive, in Season 7 it increased to 47.78%, but this is not a high value, it's below average. Thus, anyone complaining about Sombra has a huge problem with the skill.
https://www.overbuff.com/heroes/sombra?platform=pc&gameMode=competitive&hero=sombra

Wow, it's almost as if immediately jumping the gun and deducing that a character is broken based on a rework that hasn't even been out for two weeks is moronic!

That's what bads do, they find literally anything that they can to blame the game for their being bad..

Bads were blaming it before it even went live

[DragonView]

Tried Ana and Zen for the first time in awhile, it was miserable against Sombra every match. I had to switch-off. --- Her hack is too much for any squishy, she doesn't have to shoot you much, you're dead within 0.5-1.5 seconds, when the human reaction time is ~0.3 seconds (this is assuming you see the target) --- It's just not enough reaction time to deal with her. Even if you're aware of her presence.

-- I'd suggest, 30 second Invisibility on a 12-15 sec cooldown. Nerf her Virus a tad. --- Her hack has always been annoying but fine (maybe add +2 seconds cool down), I play Doom, and Hammond, and all other tanks, and yea she'll put me in a bad spot if I dive then Hacked, but if you prep for it, you just bait the hack when you weren't needing to use any abilities anyway. And her hack will be essentially useless.

Edit: P.S. "Staying with your team," is not a solution, she will roam 2-meters behind your team, and still pick the rear-most person, meanwhile most teams won't look behind them that quickly. Map sense is required, but even with decent map sense its not easy to be quick enough to deal with her.
P..S.S. Spawn camping is a joke, makes the game super unfun when you're trapped in your own Spawn.
P.S.S.S. Playing AS Sombra feels 'fine', she's squishy, and if they have a moira you can count on not being able to activate your Stealth after a Translocator. Again, that VIRUS just needs a tweak (like it should do VERY little damage, but it boosts your own/team damage significantly, a Discord orb for Sombra.) - Would also rely on Sombra having to actually land some bullets... my god she doesn't have to shoot anything anymore!

[ゴ『M.P. Firebrand』ゴ]

skill issue

[THAT Guy]

Originalmente postado por ChrisLiveDotStream:

Tried Ana and Zen for the first time in awhile, it was miserable against Sombra every match. I had to switch-off. --- Her hack is too much for any squishy, she doesn't have to shoot you much, you're dead within 0.5-1.5 seconds, when the human reaction time is ~0.3 seconds (this is assuming you see the target) --- It's just not enough reaction time to deal with her. Even if you're aware of her presence.

-- I'd suggest, 30 second Invisibility on a 12-15 sec cooldown. Nerf her Virus a tad. --- Her hack has always been annoying but fine (maybe add +2 seconds cool down), I play Doom, and Hammond, and all other tanks, and yea she'll put me in a bad spot if I dive then Hacked, but if you prep for it, you just bait the hack when you weren't needing to use any abilities anyway. And her hack will be essentially useless.

Edit: P.S. "Staying with your team," is not a solution, she will roam 2-meters behind your team, and still pick the rear-most person, meanwhile most teams won't look behind them that quickly. Map sense is required, but even with decent map sense its not easy to be quick enough to deal with her.
P..S.S. Spawn camping is a joke, makes the game super unfun when you're trapped in your own Spawn.
P.S.S.S. Playing AS Sombra feels 'fine', she's squishy, and if they have a moira you can count on not being able to activate your Stealth after a Translocator. Again, that VIRUS just needs a tweak (like it should do VERY little damage, but it boosts your own/team damage significantly, a Discord orb for Sombra.) - Would also rely on Sombra having to actually land some bullets... my god she doesn't have to shoot anything anymore!

Lmafo, "staying with my team doesn't work so shes still broken"

Literally any excuse to avoid even considering, that they just may be a better player

Ngl this whole thing is hilarious...

Blizzard Literally reworked her to address pretty much everything the casual crybabies were crying about relating to her, while not making her unplayable..

Yet you just move on to crying about something else...

This is not about hero balance, this about players trying to blame the blame the game for their refusal or inability to grow as players..

Everyone of you who had sombra problems does so because you play with your brains turned off.. this is the #1 thing that keeps bads from getting good..

You refuse to counterPLAY, which is why players have struggles against peticular heros.

Which is the concept of adjusting how you play to better adapt to the situation at hand...

Sombra is a joke if you adapt to play against her

[Roux]

Originalmente postado por LunaLena:

"boo boo i don't know how to counter pick"

"oh shucks, looks like the enemy team is playing the same thing that EVERYONE plays, time to play the same exact counters because some loser told me to on the steam forums!"