sombra is still unfun to play against

[Callmematt]

sombra's main issue was her hack and perma invisibility and what did they do? gave her more dmg a dmg ability and didn't change her invisibility or the ability to just make u not play the game . her new play style is just the same as before expect you get to stay in the fight longer and kill things faster if ur a tank player who plays dive u just have no fun right now caus every game is a sombra qp or ranked + u can no longer leave qp games to not play against sombra orisa comps unless u want a ban

[Callmematt]

Escrito originalmente por Dmitry:

after the latest update, now every second Health pack is hacked :D

yup so ball has 2 hp packs hacked has more dmg from sombra and gets hacked more often

[foon]

Escrito originalmente por Kartofan:

LOL. Her hack really ruins the life of the hamster and the doomfist.

i think your mind may be stuck in overwatch 1

[Psalms]

I personally think it's the "get out of jail for card" or her translocator. Her hack can be countered by intelligence on your part but you also need a competent team.

The only grip I have with the game in general is that it's too forgiving or too many "get out of jail free cards" and there's no compensation for it.

[Nodoka]

The exact same thing can be applied to ANY character you dont like playing against.

[Chinese Mafia]

Escrito originalmente por Psalms²:

Her hack can be countered by intelligence on your part but you also need a competent team.

Escrito originalmente por Nodoka:

The exact same thing can be applied to ANY character you dont like playing against.

LOL. Wake up. With the new season, Sombra gives more damage than Soldier 76, Sojourn, and at the same time has the same health, invisibility and the possibility of quick escape. Now she can not only irritate and kill the backline, but also be stronger than the flanking Soldier 76.

[Nodoka]

Escrito originalmente por Kartofan:

Escrito originalmente por Psalms²:

Her hack can be countered by intelligence on your part but you also need a competent team.

Escrito originalmente por Nodoka:

The exact same thing can be applied to ANY character you dont like playing against.

LOL. Wake up. With the new season, Sombra gives more damage than Soldier 76, Sojourn, and at the same time has the same health, invisibility and the possibility of quick escape. Now she can not only irritate and kill the backline, but also be stronger than the flanking Soldier 76.

Both Sojourn and Soldier can fight at mid/long range, Sombra can't.
Ontop of Sojourn and Soldier having their m2 to burst faster then Sombra can. Sombra only has a dot that wont burst faster then either helix rockets or raingun alt fire.
Sombra is a pure flanker Soldier and Sojourn arent.

If you want fair comparisson compare her to pure flankers like Tracer, Genji, Reaper and so forth.

[Chinese Mafia]

Escrito originalmente por Nodoka:

If you want fair comparisson compare her to pure flankers like Tracer, Genji, Reaper and so forth.

The tracer is a dead character now, she is not a problem for supports. Genji with his deflection is an overbuffed character. The Reaper not easy to escape or get through the frontline, and it is also very noisy, which gives it away a lot.

Escrito originalmente por Dave:

Hanzo still one shots her with the greatest of ease, and counters her just as hard as Cass does.

Hanzo has a lot of spam shots, and strong counters the Soldier 76, not the sombra. Hanzo can be beaten if provoked to push E.

[shawty]

Escrito originalmente por CallMeMatt:

sombra's main issue was her hack and perma invisibility and what did they do? gave her more dmg a dmg ability and didn't change her invisibility or the ability to just make u not play the game . her new play style is just the same as before expect you get to stay in the fight longer and kill things faster if ur a tank player who plays dive u just have no fun right now caus every game is a sombra qp or ranked + u can no longer leave qp games to not play against sombra orisa comps unless u want a ban

Sorry, I'm a bit confused on some things:
* You citing her hack as being one of her 'main issues'. On what grounds is it an issue? They've fundamentally changed it through making its ability-disabling feature only happen for about ~1 second. The only people who ever complain about her hack being an issue still are people who play dive tanks.
* Her perma-invisibility has been changed, though? It's been balanced by her lack of ability to control when it's allowed to be casted, a region for players to bump her, and a decrease in movement speed. You are failing to give the game balancing team credit because you want a duration timer like the Spy's cloak.
* In that same vein, you complain about how Sombra is now able to 'stay in the fight longer' despite the fact the entire issue with her originally was that she never had to commit to fights since she was able to just... translocate back to where she placed it.
She can no longer do that. She is forced to commit to fights and use her translocator more like Tracer's blink.

I do think her damage can use some tweaking though.
Overall, I don't get much of what you're complaining about.

[Skyz]

Escrito originalmente por Rin:

Escrito originalmente por CallMeMatt:

sombra's main issue was her hack and perma invisibility and what did they do? gave her more dmg a dmg ability and didn't change her invisibility or the ability to just make u not play the game . her new play style is just the same as before expect you get to stay in the fight longer and kill things faster if ur a tank player who plays dive u just have no fun right now caus every game is a sombra qp or ranked + u can no longer leave qp games to not play against sombra orisa comps unless u want a ban

Well, people are gonna play Sombra after a Sombra rework. As for the rework and how it worked, Sombra takes a risk whenever she places herself on the battlefield now. If she engages in a fight, she has to win it or at least make sure it's not a target that can run after her if she translocates. If you stand next to another support, Sombra shouldn't really be a threat to you unless she's straight up in your face or if your support can't hit their shots to heal you.

The main complaint was her gameplay style didn't have any risks, it does so now. Invis is the same, because Sombra's personality is in the stealth element. Her invis/hack is her personality, which is why they made minimal changes to it. They've done a pretty good job. She should feel more fair to play against now.

Sit on high ground somewhere and hack? Spawn trap supports? So much risk

[Mikozo]

Well before the rework playing against her is like playing one sided tag, with the reworks is just like playing hide and seek

[itzDerrio]

duh , she’ll always ruin matches that she’s in for both teams , theres no “fix” to her but delete

[Silverlight]

At least you can hunt her down now. You can even guess where's she's going and shoot random bullets and decloak her because the arc of her grenade is predictable.

Pretty fun.

[Kakashi]

you cry about sombra how about these bots who just walk outside and do nothing in rank games

[DittNavn]

All i am reading is skill issue

[Chinese Mafia]

I've been playing Sombra for the last few days, and I take back my words that she needs to be nerfed. Yes, she became stronger against some characters, but she also became weaker against others. It is also difficult to implement in the backline, and if the players stand in pairs or there are illari, then it is unrealistically difficult to kill the backline, you must first break the healing pylon, run away, return back where they are already waiting for you, plus it is not always easy to hit moving characters with the virus, many people suddenly start to move aside when you throw a virus. Also, if you attack the backline very often you will be detected ahead of time, you will not always be able to escape. Thus, Sombra requires a lot of play on the frontline, and if you attack the backline, you will often waste time and set up your team to lose. I also played against Soldier 76, and I killed him easily on Sombra, but when Sombra played against me on Soldier 76, I beat them 95% of the time. Therefore, I was wrong that Sombra became stronger than Soldier 76, I also double-checked this at the shooting range. Sombra therefore has the lowest win rate in the game. She had an average win rate of 44.27% in competitive, in Season 7 it increased to 47.78%, but this is not a high value, it's below average. Thus, anyone complaining about Sombra has a huge problem with the skill.
https://www.overbuff.com/heroes/sombra?platform=pc&gameMode=competitive&hero=sombra