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What incentive do I have to "Not disrespect someone", by playing along with their make-believe?
To me it sounds a lot more disrespectful to affirm someone's self-made identity, rather than saying "No" to them.
Soon as Blizzard started emphasizing people's sexualities, it went downhill.
Yes.
And nobody cared. Why? Because Blizzard didn't go around parading Tracer as this biggest of gay tomboys that has ever existed ever, pretty sure you had to go read the extended universe crap to get that part.
Now, however, you have Blizzard stepping out of the gate (And designing characters, no less) to fit a specific Alphabet Soup mold. People are catching on to that fact and they're none too happy with it, and are rightfully calling it out for what it is: A hot load of garbage.
Ooohh, you're one of "Those" people, are you?
You know, sometimes it feels like the internet should demand a media literacy test before allowing anyone to post anything about media.
But X-Men also wasn't about LGBTQ+ or Wokeness. X-Men was all about the young people who turns out to be mutants with dangerous powers and the team of X-Men trying to save these young under the Charles Xavier's school. Not only that Magneto who's sick of getting this "experiment" treatment from normal humans decided to rebel and form its own team. It was always about these clashes between Charles's X-Men and Magneto's team. Saving humanity no matter what how they see it.
This was NEVER about LGBTQ+, Queer movement or any kind of SJW bullsh*t out there.
Funny enough, Morph was a "He" back then. Why the hell change a character that is already has a gender and turn into "non-binary" statue? Again, makes no sense, forced delusions.
And Tracer being lesbian was natural. It's like someone you met from the street has a chance of being lesbian or straight or pan or bi and so on. Tracer's sexuality was never in the front lines. Her story was with Winston and the other teammates, how she got stuck in a time loop and all. It was always been her story, not her being Lesbian and constantly getting reminded of it.
But then out of nowhere they made Solider gay? and made EVERYONE know about this? Why Solider became gay when there was no hint or evidence he was gay all along like Tracer? Why it wasn't natural? Again, forced. Bad writing and decisions ruined this game.
Funny enough its YOU who coded this kind of message to your brain and now associating games or shows like X-Men into LGBTQ+, Queer movement, BLM, SJW, Feminism and Pronouns warriors in your head when it was never the case at the first time.
And to that, you should really go back and watch old X-Men and see if it was the case or not. Because I did, and it was never the case of X-Men being all out woke movement.
Hell, they even had Nightcrawler give Wolverine a Bible as a proposed way of helping him find some peace, and he takes the advice. That is a really sweet thing if you ask me.
Oh, and Rogue actually looks like an attractive female, rather than an androgynous entity with a bit of a bump on her chest. And no, her struggles have nothing to do with "Gay people not being accepted", but rather that it's her being put in a terrible position where she can't form physical bonds with anyone lest she drains the life out of them. Something that you can emphasize a lot more with.
Lately its always about this "Message" for non-existing problems in the first place and pleasing these activists instead of their fans lmao. They stole Rouge's butt, made her a flat butt woman. And no, I'm not pointing this out JUST BECAUSE I care about her butt, but I am pointing out this just to show how these writers are SCARED over a butt being presented. How a woman having a butt or breasts is OFFENSIVE? They literally care about these things than writing a good story. And that's why Disney is failing.
You gotta love The Acolyte trailer as well LMAO, no White man exists in that trailer.
God forbid these people getting successful fr, they can't go broke even faster.
Oh well, at least we have 2B's butt to rely on.
We are talking about toxic communities, females and LGBTIQ+ are harassed on both games, I never said OW has no harassment, I said is better than other games, but yes, we can agree that after the steam release the community is getting worse and worse, but you can only wonder why.
Lest be honest, nobody cares because she is considered "hot" and being lesbian es a sexual fetish for the majority of the people, that is the reality.
No, I'm not one of 'those people', that is the reality, XMen always has been about discrimination, if you did not catch is understandable specially if you watched/read the comics when you were young and we dont get that kind of things but I dont know what to tell you... you can even say that the Xavier/Magneto relationship have similarities with Zen/Ram...
Also... just keep in mind this... People told/create stories with biases from their POV, and TEAM4 has a lot of people that are part of minorities or marginalized genders so they create stories and characters that represent their experiences and that is OK ( some part of the OW story was created by Alyssa Wong ), its also OK to be a white person or a hetero/cis person that is not exposed on his daily life to this kind of things and you write stories without those minorities or marginalized genders in your stories because you dont really know them.
That's what I am saying. discrimination. But not the same way how LGBTQ+ people getting discrimination from. Associating in a way you think X-Men getting discriminated on their world like how LGBTQ+ is getting is wrong. Because they are two far away things. In X-Men, LGBTQ+ members don't get hated over their sexuality. They get hate by the humans because they are scared. Because one of these mutants has a potential to lose control and kill everyone around him/her if they can't control. At one comic Wolverine had to kill someone who just discovered his power and his power was the reason why almost everyone around him dead. Because he can't control it.
https://youtu.be/UV01D8-CI9A?si=J1knw32NjzJ0969b
And you came here comparing X-Men and their problems with the real life problems of LGBTQ+, Queer movement, BLM, SJW, "Misgendering" pronouns warriors just sounds like a joke to me. People on these movement groups ONLY facing discrimination because people like this exists and sadly it is the MAJORITY of people who pushes these things in our throat.
https://youtu.be/OvsX22glcSc?si=5sbz427iwWJiVrGX
https://youtu.be/o68OWCd2fLg?si=OR15cfkbstDB6RH7
Not to mention some 'workers' in game industry freely posting how they hate white men and hetero men is beyond stupidity. Last time I checked everyone was getting access to games just fine. No one taped people of color's mouths and locked them up, not letting them play the games they wanna play? What's the 'big problem' here we need to solve?
And yes, I know in certain situations trans people or people of color's or gay people getting so much more hate because of racism and sexism and even getting killed, I am not stupid. I have eyes. But the response shouldn't be "delete all white males" or "delete all cops from Spider-Man 2" or "We need to force these practices down to our consumers throat because we are 'woke' " is a sh*t show. It would only push hate, ruin the IP, characters and overall story. And that's why the term "Go woke, go broke" is a real thing.
And how many of people on TEAM4 is actually marginalized or facing some sort of discrimination? Besides the Blizzard's sh*t show, I haven't heard anything about their personal struggles outside of the work. And from the game, I can see they are gaining just alright money. I haven't heard of them getting bullied or beaten up. (I am not defending Blizzard, what happened in the company was disgusting as hell. That's also one of the reason why I stopped supporting this game and other Blizzard titles.)
And if we gonna talk about discrimination, there is other game dev's besides TEAM4 faces these things "daily" and they don't do things like adding non-existing gender hero to the game or deleting white people off the game. Or Uglify the female characters like how almost modern games does to "spread the message" and basically disrespecting the actual 3D model actor's face.
Last time I checked everyone was fine playing games who has a beautiful white women that's also well written. Or a black female character who is hella beautiful. So, where is this big problem? What are y'all fighting for here besides the "problems" you think its happening outside.
And that is why their stories are ♥♥♥♥. They're leaning too heavily on their own warped perspective of "Lived experiences" and end up making self-insert bullcrap.
Bonus point if it's a trans man to really leave people confused
No one here is "Coping". They're just mocking the character and the ideology behind it, because the ideology is cringe and gay. I'd personally go with disgusting as well, but that's just my personal opinion.
Discrimination is discrimination no matter the target of the hate, there is no 'good' discrimination, I dont know why I have to say this, and I'm not going to talk about the SBI controversy because I already said it, there is not 'good' or 'positive' discrimination.
I think you watched a different version of xmen... maybe yours was on the yellow page or something like that... Seems to me that you have bigger problems that being worried about a game online.
Never said that the problems or the harassment that women and members of the LFBTIQ+ community are the same, I said they are harassed, we are talking about the scope of games, and again, I been playing OW since like 2017 ( Back on those days if you have an accent people tell you wild things ) and like every gaming space is full of it, got better after the release of VALORANT and after the release on steam got worse again, but you only have to read the comments on this forum to see why, a lot of the people just do it because
* they really lack the education to respect other people
* they are trolls that try to disrupt the community
* they hate blizzard because they think blizzard own them some kind of 'retribution' and they plan to ruin the game for other people, come on every thread have a couple of people saying 'I throw this match because I dont like the game' yet he has already 500 hours on the game on the steam client.
* and off course, bad people exist.
That being said, OW do a decent job on banning people for those things compared to other games, that is why we see on this forums or reddit people saying 'I got banned for nothing'... like we all know that you are just full of ♥♥♥♥ even more after one of the devs on one of those threads pulled up the whole history of the account.
The thing is, it's their identity and not their preference so it's not exactly something that blends into the background like homosexuality. (it always bugged me that people lump those two together with the whole LGBTQIA+ thing, it should be just LGBAP then put trans/intersex/agender/nonbinary as a separate group.)