sombra is cancer

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[『M.P. Firebrand』]

Sombra is just tf2 spy but worse and even more tedious to deal with

[Null Winter]

The sad part is that this current version is after a long stream of nerfs just to get to a point where she might actually die in a confrontation. On initial release, she could place her teleporter anywhere on the map with infinite duration and instantly zap back to it, free from any consequences, and immediately put another one down; her hacks also could not be interrupted by shields or LOS breaks, so the only option was to instant 180 and perfectly hit her the moment you (didn't) hear her uncloak. She also had a massive and passive speed boost while cloaked, capable of outrunning anyone.

[Froog]

Originally posted by ゴ『M.P. Firebrand』ゴ:

Sombra is just tf2 spy but worse and even more tedious to deal with

i think spy is worse, he only works in pubs, sombra can fit into dive in pro play and get more than one kill, running spy in 6s you get one backstab and run away while trying not to die

i think tanks need some type of cc immunity that builds up or something not even for balance reasons just as like a quality of life thing

[Shiro♌]

Ehh.. She's only as strong as the opposition allows her to be; The moment the team is self-aware and has at least average awareness of their surroundings while within and outside the fight, she's out with just a few pokes due to how vulnerable she is.

That said.. Do take any beginner player or player with no awareness, and she's gonna hard carry the entire match, otherwise will only serve as a little distraction and loss for both teams.
She's way too tricky to be played for most players..

[Ernesto]

Originally posted by ゴ『M.P. Firebrand』ゴ:

Sombra is just tf2 spy but worse and even more tedious to deal with

Bruh the spy tf2 has this basic meanings but damn these meanings has been aged like wine
>stealth
>sabotage
also spy weapons can change the playstyle (YER knife, Dead ringer, Diamondback, spy cicle, Kunai or Clock n Dagger)
meanwhile sombra depends of translocator and virus to defend herself but her arsenal is limited but she has some interesting stuff to provide by her hands
Hack ability to lock the health packs, Machine pistol for short / mid range fights, EMP is broken but reliable to use as a AOE attack.

[Zentun]

Always has been.

[THAT Guy]

Originally posted by ゴ『M.P. Firebrand』ゴ:

Sombra is just tf2 spy but worse and even more tedious to deal with

Please tell me your trolling..

Both are jokes to deal with when you have and apply game sense..

The only reason spy is a problem is most of the mainstream tf2 playerbase are brain dead..

That and the kunai is the second most broken weapon to ever exist in tf2s history...

The first? Direct hit when it first released, which only lasted for a week

[phazonfreak]

Originally posted by Shiro♌:

Ehh.. She's only as strong as the opposition allows her to be; The moment the team is self-aware and has at least average awareness of their surroundings while within and outside the fight, she's out with just a few pokes due to how vulnerable she is.

That said.. Do take any beginner player or player with no awareness, and she's gonna hard carry the entire match, otherwise will only serve as a little distraction and loss for both teams.
She's way too tricky to be played for most players..

This ☝🏼

[THAT Guy]

Originally posted by phazonfreak:

Originally posted by Shiro♌:

Ehh.. She's only as strong as the opposition allows her to be; The moment the team is self-aware and has at least average awareness of their surroundings while within and outside the fight, she's out with just a few pokes due to how vulnerable she is.

That said.. Do take any beginner player or player with no awareness, and she's gonna hard carry the entire match, otherwise will only serve as a little distraction and loss for both teams.
She's way too tricky to be played for most players..

This ☝🏼

Unfortunately everyone who actually needs to read it either won't comprehend it, or will get mad and shutdown..

Even so much as implying it's a skill issue is considered toxic..

[Shiro♌]

Originally posted by THAT Guy:

Originally posted by phazonfreak:

This ☝🏼

Unfortunately everyone who actually needs to read it either won't comprehend it, or will get mad and shutdown..

Even so much as implying it's a skill issue is considered toxic..

What do you suggest?
I mean.. I'm all down to try and make it the least complicated I can, but I'm not sure if that alone is within my abilities.

[Max]

sombra free out of jaill card ability should go away, at least with tracer if you ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ you have only one recall but with sombra you escape and stealth as you want

[Max]

Originally posted by FartSalad:

dont play support or tank until devs fix their game or simply play other games, they make hero that need whole team to kill unless if you are dps is a joke when MM punish you for more being good with more unawarness teammate.

but ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ 4min for DPS Q is trash

[THAT Guy]

Originally posted by re("(?-i)\bxmaxrayx\b",_str_??0):

Originally posted by FartSalad:

dont play support or tank until devs fix their game or simply play other games, they make hero that need whole team to kill unless if you are dps is a joke when MM punish you for more being good with more unawarness teammate.

You have a lot of faith in blizzard considering every time they have tried to fix something they only make things worse or create new problems. At least in regards to ow2

"If you can't do things right, don't do anything" been working out extremely well for valve/TF2

[侍Kage]

tbh this game needs to get rid of blinks. It's incredibly stupid, it's already not easy to kill people due to heals, then this people also blinks when they are low and keep reseting is stupid. New hero is also stupid as well, goes underground cannot be damaged for a long time plus low cd as well.

I don't know game should be more straight forward, when enemy picks blinks, immunity etc, they stall way too much, helping their tanks way too much.

Reaper is kinda the same, you stall people behind thanks to immunity and high hp, you can also stay in front and stall with immunity as well. It's kinda weird to me idk.

[phazonfreak]

Originally posted by THAT Guy:

Originally posted by re("(?-i)\bxmaxrayx\b",_str_??0):

dont play support or tank until devs fix their game or simply play other games, they make hero that need whole team to kill unless if you are dps is a joke when MM punish you for more being good with more unawarness teammate.

You have a lot of faith in blizzard considering every time they have tried to fix something they only make things worse or create new problems. At least in regards to ow2

"If you can't do things right, don't do anything" been working out extremely well for valve/TF2

Actually the Sombra rework is one of the few instances where they fixed something for good and elevated the play style of a Hero. Yes, she can still be quite annoying and disrupting as an enemy dps because that is basically her entire idea as a character. But after the rework she is much easier to counter due to the much needed changes to her translocator that no longer teleports her across the entire map.

The main issue with her now is not based on her kit that enabled her to engage in fights with no risk at all like it used to, but based on players who do not have the awareness to track her down after she teleports away to finish her off before she can slip away in stealth.