Christ sake man

[Harlegar]

I play sigma, a character i don't usually play just for fun in quickplay, i then switch winston, a tank that i actually play and genuinely find fun to play, then seeing as the enemy comp is pretty defensive, i then go mauga to counter that with aggression (which works mind you) and that he is just super fun and thing is, he's not even that big of a problem when people sook about him 24/7, the only thing i can agree with that being overtuned was his ultimate not allowing certain heroes to do their basic function and by the end of the match, the enemy sigma tells me to reconsider my life, like dude, its quickplay and im playing who i want to play because they're fun.

[Harlegar]

Mind you, i get it, mauga is a very powerful and meta defining character but..whats wrong with that? The tank role in overwatch 2 is pretty much abysmal ever since the start because tank has no actual power aside from being the beefier DPS that just creates space and ONLY creates space for the team, with there being only ONE tank, it should've been obvious to see that we gotten a tank that can ACTUALLY DO THINGS aside from sit, block damage, move in a little further, fall back a bit and repeat, The supports are having the most massive power creep because of the fact of the one less tank meaning that its instantly easier for any hero to just solo the tank if the supports aren't ramming their healing into their tank because of the tank just being a living punching bag.

[DB]

Who are you talking to?

[Harlegar]

Originally posted by DBTHEPLUG:

Who are you talking to?

All the people who are still complaining about mauga, who isn't even that much of a problem nowadays

[KOS-MOS]

nobody is complaining about mauga lol

[Harlegar]

Originally posted by KOS-MOS:

nobody is complaining about mauga lol

..Tell that to the 80% of people i see when ever i simply play mauga just to have fun :V

[Ernesto]

so the person who complained about mauga huh?
mauga?
the character was nerfed to the ground?
jesuschrist, i see why you hate the imcompetence, and certain mental gymnastics from that person.
expect nothing about your enemies and your teamates too

[Ernesto]

also
regret nothing

[Saana]

Tanks and healers are so entitled, holy smokers... Why should a tank outdamage a DPS? Why should a healer outduel a duelist DPS? Why should a tank outheal a healer? Why should a healer outlive a tank?

If You want to heal, then pick a HEALER. If You want to deal damage, then pick a DAMAGE HERO. A tank should never have comparable damage to a DPS, or have comparable heal than a healer.
But of course its very normal in Overwatch. The developers just hate DPS role cause it requires skills, and they don't want to gatekeep unskillful players.

Mauga is a terrible designed hero. And his backstory is so bad, if i was in charge, i would have renamed the animated short 'Feat. Sombra Rework'. At least she displayed a lot of character, and her using the new Translocator instead of the old one was very well backed in the story, perfectly timed and thus properly advertised.

[Shaelent]

Originally posted by Harlegar:

Originally posted by KOS-MOS:

nobody is complaining about mauga lol

..Tell that to the 80% of people i see when ever i simply play mauga just to have fun :V

Whenever you load up OW2, the golden rule is to stop caring about what anyone in chat says and treat them like they are all AI because if you respond to it then they will abuse the reports to get you banned and no one like that is worth interacting with anyway.

[Harlegar]

Originally posted by Saana:

Tanks and healers are so entitled, holy smokers... Why should a tank outdamage a DPS? Why should a healer outduel a duelist DPS? Why should a tank outheal a healer? Why should a healer outlive a tank?

If You want to heal, then pick a HEALER. If You want to deal damage, then pick a DAMAGE HERO. A tank should never have comparable damage to a DPS, or have comparable heal than a healer.
But of course its very normal in Overwatch. The developers just hate DPS role cause it requires skills, and they don't want to gatekeep unskillful players.

Mauga is a terrible designed hero. And his backstory is so bad, if i was in charge, i would have renamed the animated short 'Feat. Sombra Rework'. At least she displayed a lot of character, and her using the new Translocator instead of the old one was very well backed in the story, perfectly timed and thus properly advertised.

Not saying that a tank should outheal and outdamage the DPS and support roles, its just sad how that, yeah sure, a DPS can duel a tank, but the fact that a support can duel a tank VERY EASILY (an example being ana.) and most of the time, win.

[Harlegar]

Originally posted by Saana:

Tanks and healers are so entitled, holy smokers... Why should a tank outdamage a DPS? Why should a healer outduel a duelist DPS? Why should a tank outheal a healer? Why should a healer outlive a tank?

If You want to heal, then pick a HEALER. If You want to deal damage, then pick a DAMAGE HERO. A tank should never have comparable damage to a DPS, or have comparable heal than a healer.
But of course its very normal in Overwatch. The developers just hate DPS role cause it requires skills, and they don't want to gatekeep unskillful players.

Mauga is a terrible designed hero. And his backstory is so bad, if i was in charge, i would have renamed the animated short 'Feat. Sombra Rework'. At least she displayed a lot of character, and her using the new Translocator instead of the old one was very well backed in the story, perfectly timed and thus properly advertised.

And what i was talking about, was just how poor it was to play and feel to be as the tank in the team, because as supports, you could always switch the tempo to being more aggressive/defensive, meanwhile as a tank, you rarely, RARELY ever get the chance to really do your own thing, as a tank, as the main push for the whole team without needing to have a support baby sitting you.

[Saana]

Originally posted by Harlegar:

Not saying that a tank should outheal and outdamage the DPS and support roles, its just sad how that, yeah sure, a DPS can duel a tank, but the fact that a support can duel a tank VERY EASILY (an example being ana.) and most of the time, win.

Ana can duel and beat which tank exactly?
Winston is known for harassing Ana into switching. D. Wrecking Ball does the same, but requires skill and deep knowledge of maps to do the same. Va can also dive her and win her in a duel, albeit less efficiently.
Roadhog is straight up the most busted 1v1 duelist. He's the best Death Match hero of all time. Anytime someone picks Roadhog in Death Match, fun ends.
Ana cannot possibly beat Reinhardt, Sigma or Ramattra in a duel. From far away, they can just cast shield and break line of sight. In close quarters, they have 2-3x her HP and simply walk over her.
Zarya is almost uncounterable. Especially if she gets high energy. She might be on the weaker side in pure 1v1, but even then she probably will destroy Ana due to her double bubble and purge effect. She can also self-heal since she has shield if the battle lasts too long.
Orisa hard counters Ana. Period.
There is only Doomfist who would struggle vs a good Ana. Junker Queen and Mauga would both find ways to beat Ana.

Speaking of tanks, Mauga and duels, Mauga has this unexplicable mechanic where his burn damage does not get purged by health packs. Every other Damage Over Time skill in the game gets purged by it.
You probably do not realize how much of an anti-duelist he actually is, but as a duelist myself, i just do not want to even duel him, because duelist heroes often rely on health packs for healing, and when You're still burning 20-25 HP of Your little 200 after taking a health pack, You're in such a tremendous disadvantage, and the next duel You are most likely going to lose it.
i cannot duel a Mauga. i cannot duel a Zarya. i cannot duel a Roadhog. i cannot duel most of the tanks unless i am using a hero that hard counters them. For someone to complain that tanks, the anti-duel role, cannot duel other heroes, its just baffling.

Its the same with support/healer players. They think Kiriko is balanced. Here, watch this video for entertainment: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BWP5LnfOkxM
So many interesting points to make, but just to name one of them, a really good Soldier player goes on a flank and invites the opposing team to duel him. Kiriko, a HEALER, duels him, loses, but gets out alive because she is BUSTED. Then, a DPS player using Soujurn, a really good duelist since she has very small hitbox, duels him, loses to him and dies. This support player defends Kiriko but says that Soujurn misplayed by going for the duel.
??? Literally DPS and healer both did the same thing, for DPS it was a misplay but for healer it was fine? And they think DPS is broken???

Think about all the heroes that broke original Overwatch. It was either healer or tanks. Mercy (mass rez, double rez), Brigitte (GOATs), Baptiste (New GOATs), Sigma (Double Shield). And they all have things in common, but the most important one is: Make prolonged fights, either through preventing death, or undo'ing death itself.
Think about the most fun META's in Overwatch. It was when DPS had actual impact, for example the dive META, with Tracer, Widowmaker, Genji, Junkrat, etc. Every role was super viable at every level. D. Va was broken. Zenyatta would get quadruple kills in Overwatch League games.
But all what people are focussed on is repeating history, to make healers better tanks, or make tanks better DPS.

[Harlegar]

Originally posted by Saana:

Originally posted by Harlegar:

Not saying that a tank should outheal and outdamage the DPS and support roles, its just sad how that, yeah sure, a DPS can duel a tank, but the fact that a support can duel a tank VERY EASILY (an example being ana.) and most of the time, win.

Ana can duel and beat which tank exactly?
Winston is known for harassing Ana into switching. D. Wrecking Ball does the same, but requires skill and deep knowledge of maps to do the same. Va can also dive her and win her in a duel, albeit less efficiently.
Roadhog is straight up the most busted 1v1 duelist. He's the best Death Match hero of all time. Anytime someone picks Roadhog in Death Match, fun ends.
Ana cannot possibly beat Reinhardt, Sigma or Ramattra in a duel. From far away, they can just cast shield and break line of sight. In close quarters, they have 2-3x her HP and simply walk over her.
Zarya is almost uncounterable. Especially if she gets high energy. She might be on the weaker side in pure 1v1, but even then she probably will destroy Ana due to her double bubble and purge effect. She can also self-heal since she has shield if the battle lasts too long.
Orisa hard counters Ana. Period.
There is only Doomfist who would struggle vs a good Ana. Junker Queen and Mauga would both find ways to beat Ana.

Speaking of tanks, Mauga and duels, Mauga has this unexplicable mechanic where his burn damage does not get purged by health packs. Every other Damage Over Time skill in the game gets purged by it.
You probably do not realize how much of an anti-duelist he actually is, but as a duelist myself, i just do not want to even duel him, because duelist heroes often rely on health packs for healing, and when You're still burning 20-25 HP of Your little 200 after taking a health pack, You're in such a tremendous disadvantage, and the next duel You are most likely going to lose it.
i cannot duel a Mauga. i cannot duel a Zarya. i cannot duel a Roadhog. i cannot duel most of the tanks unless i am using a hero that hard counters them. For someone to complain that tanks, the anti-duel role, cannot duel other heroes, its just baffling.

Its the same with support/healer players. They think Kiriko is balanced. Here, watch this video for entertainment: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BWP5LnfOkxM
So many interesting points to make, but just to name one of them, a really good Soldier player goes on a flank and invites the opposing team to duel him. Kiriko, a HEALER, duels him, loses, but gets out alive because she is BUSTED. Then, a DPS player using Soujurn, a really good duelist since she has very small hitbox, duels him, loses to him and dies. This support player defends Kiriko but says that Soujurn misplayed by going for the duel.
??? Literally DPS and healer both did the same thing, for DPS it was a misplay but for healer it was fine? And they think DPS is broken???

Think about all the heroes that broke original Overwatch. It was either healer or tanks. Mercy (mass rez, double rez), Brigitte (GOATs), Baptiste (New GOATs), Sigma (Double Shield). And they all have things in common, but the most important one is: Make prolonged fights, either through preventing death, or undo'ing death itself.
Think about the most fun META's in Overwatch. It was when DPS had actual impact, for example the dive META, with Tracer, Widowmaker, Genji, Junkrat, etc. Every role was super viable at every level. D. Va was broken. Zenyatta would get quadruple kills in Overwatch League games.
But all what people are focussed on is repeating history, to make healers better tanks, or make tanks better DPS.

And like that, im sold

[1MantisPhoenix]

Originally posted by DBTHEPLUG:

Who are you talking to?

He wants help from God, as per title post.
Ignore them, make your skin grow thiccccer and as you said, it's quickplay,. don't even give them the satisfaction of your replies...