People who hate widow, why?

[King of Pleasure]

I decided to try hero I never played - a widow, I played her from 7 hours and I woke biggest sociopaths in OW community.
Games where they pick reaper/sombra/lucio/lifeweaver and chasing me in swarm and then teabaging me, people begin extremely toxic in all chat, zarya activating her bubble, running trough my whole team like if they werent there, trying to chase me down.
Now sure, widow can send you home with single shot, with capable player might be game changing, but so can half other heroes, but I never saw such hate directed toward me, even when I played sombra.
So question is, if you one of this dark vision people, that are capable to lose game, just so that you can bully widow, what is the motive?

[Listed]

one shots sucks and fighting them sucks, thats why people hate widow and hanzo

[King of Pleasure]

Originally posted by Listed:

one shots sucks and fighting them sucks, thats why people hate widow and hanzo

I never felt same toxicity while playing hanzo, not even slightly comparable, also you have heroes like kiroko, zen, even genji, which can also one shot.

[Listed]

Originally posted by King of Pleasure:

Originally posted by Listed:

one shots sucks and fighting them sucks, thats why people hate widow and hanzo

I never felt same toxicity while playing hanzo, not even slightly comparable, also you have heroes like kiroko, zen, even genji, which can also one shot.

kiriko cant one shot, zen charge shot is a burst fire, not a one shot. and genji I guess, but genji players generally arent good

[King of Pleasure]

Originally posted by Listed:

Originally posted by King of Pleasure:

I never felt same toxicity while playing hanzo, not even slightly comparable, also you have heroes like kiroko, zen, even genji, which can also one shot.

kiriko cant one shot, zen charge shot is a burst fire, not a one shot. and genji I guess, but genji players generally arent good

Zen with discover orb does 176 to headshot, which is instakill againist for example widow(with single orb). kiriko does 142.5 i believe, which is quite close to begin instakill. Sojourn can one shot aswell, with 195 per shot. We can also argue that hog can oneshot (as you cannot prevent it once he throw hook). Reaper does oneshot aswell, Doom can also oneshot.

[ゴ『M.P. Firebrand』ゴ]

Snipers are for cowards who won’t kill a man in equal range combat.

[Listed]

Originally posted by King of Pleasure:

Originally posted by Listed:

kiriko cant one shot, zen charge shot is a burst fire, not a one shot. and genji I guess, but genji players generally arent good

Zen with discover orb does 176 to headshot, which is instakill againist for example widow(with single orb). kiriko does 142.5 i believe, which is quite close to begin instakill. Sojourn can one shot aswell, with 195 per shot. We can also argue that hog can oneshot (as you cannot prevent it once he throw hook). Reaper does oneshot aswell, Doom can also oneshot.

and guess what, most people dont like fighting those characters either!!!

[Silverlight]

Originally posted by King of Pleasure:

Originally posted by Listed:

one shots sucks and fighting them sucks, thats why people hate widow and hanzo

I never felt same toxicity while playing hanzo, not even slightly comparable, also you have heroes like kiroko, zen, even genji, which can also one shot.

Kirko 2 shots and I think genji needs a cool down combo.

Widow is absolutely doing better than genji right now statistically. He kinda got gutted.

Zen just got nerfed again because he does have a lot of power in his kit.

[The Hermit Gamer]

People aggro on Widows because they don't want you to have space and free-fire at their team. It's pretty simple. If you can't cope with being hard focused like this don't play Widow, or keep playing her and lose and eventually you'll get matched against potatoes who let you run the lobby.

[Shaelent]

I feel like you have a negative bias because I doubt you have people being toxic in chat and tbagging you after killing you in every single match just because you're playing Widow. Now if you're versing any lenient team then obviously they will dive on you to take you out so you don't get an opportunity to snipe out their teammates which the latter isn't toxic because it's a team game and it's smart to take out one shot heroes who pose a threat. Being countered and dived on is something you should be expecting every time you're playing Widow against good teams, I don't doubt you do the same or mirror pick Widow to get rid of the enemy Widow for your team so they don't have space to take picks on your team.

You will get some who don't like one shot heroes but most aren't being malicious about it, they're just smart players who have awareness for themselves and their team. That's all.

[King of Pleasure]

Originally posted by Shaelent:

I feel like you have a negative bias because I doubt you have people being toxic in chat and tbagging you after killing you in every single match just because you're playing Widow. Now if you're versing any lenient team then obviously they will dive on you to take you out so you don't get an opportunity to snipe out their teammates which the latter isn't toxic because it's a team game and it's smart to take out one shot heroes who pose a threat. Being countered and dived on is something you should be expecting every time you're playing Widow against good teams, I don't doubt you do the same or mirror pick Widow to get rid of the enemy Widow for your team so they don't have space to take picks on your team.

You will get some who don't like one shot heroes but most aren't being malicious about it, they're just smart players who have awareness for themselves and their team. That's all.

I do get feelings, that you either didnt get what I said, or didnt read it all. I am talking about the fact, that with widow such occurrence is way more common than with any other hero, even the one that can be way more dangerous in flank(hanzo). I also didnt said, that "lenient team did amazing dive to kill me." I am talking about people, that are in middle of shot chunk, see single projectile from widow, decide to leave rest of team to die and run towards you like if widow is new game objective, dying (cause weird enough you cannot do this with for example tank in middle of fight) and then decide to do it again. I intentionally mention, that I do play widow for first time and have just 4 hours on her, so that it is obvious I am not consistent enough to carry my weight within ranks in which I got by playing dps that I know, but weird enough, in just a 4 hours of hero I do not know, I got 3 rank ups(hardly undeserved) simply because enemy team is griefing games hard, by chasing me like if nothing else exist. This post were not a complaining about how hard my life is, it was genuine curiosity why do people do that.

[Shaelent]

Originally posted by King of Pleasure:

Originally posted by Shaelent:

I feel like you have a negative bias because I doubt you have people being toxic in chat and tbagging you after killing you in every single match just because you're playing Widow. Now if you're versing any lenient team then obviously they will dive on you to take you out so you don't get an opportunity to snipe out their teammates which the latter isn't toxic because it's a team game and it's smart to take out one shot heroes who pose a threat. Being countered and dived on is something you should be expecting every time you're playing Widow against good teams, I don't doubt you do the same or mirror pick Widow to get rid of the enemy Widow for your team so they don't have space to take picks on your team.

You will get some who don't like one shot heroes but most aren't being malicious about it, they're just smart players who have awareness for themselves and their team. That's all.

I do get feelings, that you either didnt get what I said, or didnt read it all. I am talking about the fact, that with widow such occurrence is way more common than with any other hero, even the one that can be way more dangerous in flank(hanzo). I also didnt said, that "lenient team did amazing dive to kill me." I am talking about people, that are in middle of shot chunk, see single projectile from widow, decide to leave rest of team to die and run towards you like if widow is new game objective, dying (cause weird enough you cannot do this with for example tank in middle of fight) and then decide to do it again. I intentionally mention, that I do play widow for first time and have just 4 hours on her, so that it is obvious I am not consistent enough to carry my weight within ranks in which I got by playing dps that I know, but weird enough, in just a 4 hours of hero I do not know, I got 3 rank ups(hardly undeserved) simply because enemy team is griefing games hard, by chasing me like if nothing else exist. This post were not a complaining about how hard my life is, it was genuine curiosity why do people do that.

I did read, and there's a major difference between people not liking a hero and people being toxic and you've mainly focused on toxic games you've had when playing her. Every hero receives toxicity of some kind, it doesn't matter who you play there will be a portion of the playerbase that hates versing that hero enough to be toxic towards them which is why things like this is generally anecdotal and negative experiences on heroes shouldn't be compared (with you comparing your Widow experience to Hanzo in an earlier comment). The ones dying as a result of trying to dive you just aren't playing well or smart enough for that matter (Seems to be a given since you must be at low elo and not in a higher elo where teams know how to coordinate) but if they're playing your counter there isn't any reason they shouldn't at least try go for you if they see that you've shot at or tried shooting at their team but given how they aren't making smart plays about it then it's a learning curve for them. They wouldn't know you only have 4 hours on that hero and no one wants to wait to see how good you are to decide whether or not to dive you.

As for your curiosity, it's already been answered; one shots suck, they can be frustrating to verse, you're versing teams who don't know how to handle Widow and lastly OW's main design is counterswapping.

[Hammer Of Evil]

Its probably because everyone can hear the dummy thiccc noises her rear makes as she walks around

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Its understandable from both sides. On the pro one shot side there are several ways to play around it which mostly come down to basic game sense learned from experience in the genre, on the opposite end you're dying instantly with (circumstantially) zero counterplay.

I've noticed in nearly every fps as the industry has developed more casual appeal the playerbase has been coming for snipers, so a lot of hate is likely newer genre adopters. There tends to be a lot of dismissal of the required skill, with detractors claiming you just "point and shoot" Even though in a game like overwatch pointing and shooting isn't even the barrier to entry so doing so is a skill itself, much less doing it well enough to contribute on a sniper.

[hi friends]

IDK about toxic, but widow with good aim will wreck entire team in instant. of course people with brains will hard focus you

[Basarab Laiota]

i love widow she's the best
big respects to all my fellow sniper enjoyers