GM is the new Plat lmao

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Tank who can`t stay on point and create space. Support who can't heal, deal damage at the same time and counter ults. DPS who plays sooo aggressive, can't take cover and is almost at enemy base calling for heals lmao. The level of this game keeps going downward season after season, even the battle pass looks bad.

[Shoryukenfan]

Tanks job is not just to stay on point only. Support can deal damage too, to a great deal depending on the hero. Dps not playing aggressive would be waste. however calling for heal in enemy spawn area is stupid, give you that.

It's not the game is going down, its the user base fault, not the game. The mechanics of the game are wonderful, if only people would play like a proper team trying to win a match. In the end, its just having fun so don't take it too serious.

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Originally posted by Shoryukenfan:

Tanks job is not just to stay on point only. Support can deal damage too, to a great deal depending on the hero. Dps not playing aggressive would be waste. however calling for heal in enemy spawn area is stupid, give you that.

It's not the game is going down, its the user base fault, not the game. The mechanics of the game are wonderful, if only people would play like a proper team trying to win a match. In the end, its just having fun so don't take it too serious.

Its also game's fault when they cant proper balance the competitive matchmaking, some people should not be in their rank.

[HighLanderPony]

Dear Diary...

[Shoryukenfan]

Originally posted by kynZ:

Originally posted by Shoryukenfan:

Tanks job is not just to stay on point only. Support can deal damage too, to a great deal depending on the hero. Dps not playing aggressive would be waste. however calling for heal in enemy spawn area is stupid, give you that.

It's not the game is going down, its the user base fault, not the game. The mechanics of the game are wonderful, if only people would play like a proper team trying to win a match. In the end, its just having fun so don't take it too serious.

Its also game's fault when they cant proper balance the competitive matchmaking, some people should not be in their rank.

I don't think the game balance is the problem here. The user base is deranking, afk, throwers and bots (i have them every second game, sometimes entire team is full of). Recently I had 5 times in row leavers so I lost all games. And then there are the trolls who don't play to win. With such a player base, its hard to find good matches. Its the communities fault, not the games balance.

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Originally posted by Shoryukenfan:

Originally posted by kynZ:

Its also game's fault when they cant proper balance the competitive matchmaking, some people should not be in their rank.

I don't think the game balance is the problem here. The user base is deranking, afk, throwers and bots (i have them every second game, sometimes entire team is full of). Recently I had 5 times in row leavers so I lost all games. And then there are the trolls who don't play to win. With such a player base, its hard to find good matches. Its the communities fault, not the games balance.

You have all this kind of bad players and the game still does nothing? No punishment? Thats game's fault. Bad players should be playing against other bad players and not with people who play this serious. Its a billionaire company who cant balance lobbies, take a look on CS2 and you will see there's punishment for this kind of bad players.

[Shoryukenfan]

Originally posted by kynZ:

Originally posted by Shoryukenfan:

I don't think the game balance is the problem here. The user base is deranking, afk, throwers and bots (i have them every second game, sometimes entire team is full of). Recently I had 5 times in row leavers so I lost all games. And then there are the trolls who don't play to win. With such a player base, its hard to find good matches. Its the communities fault, not the games balance.

You have all this kind of bad players and the game still does nothing? No punishment? Thats game's fault. Bad players should be playing against other bad players and not with people who play this serious. Its a billionaire company who cant balance lobbies, take a look on CS2 and you will see there's punishment for this kind of bad players.

No, that has nothing with game balance. That is a different topic, how to handle this stuff. The game itself is good. Balance wise it is good. In example if people would use aimbots, then its not the game balance the problem but the user. And this is a similar situation. The game balance does not need to be chanced, they need to identify problematic users. (i refuse to call them players)

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Originally posted by Shoryukenfan:

Originally posted by kynZ:

You have all this kind of bad players and the game still does nothing? No punishment? Thats game's fault. Bad players should be playing against other bad players and not with people who play this serious. Its a billionaire company who cant balance lobbies, take a look on CS2 and you will see there's punishment for this kind of bad players.

No, that has nothing with game balance. That is a different topic, how to handle this stuff. The game itself is good. Balance wise it is good. In example if people would use aimbots, then its not the game balance the problem but the user. And this is a similar situation. The game balance does not need to be chanced, they need to identify problematic users. (i refuse to call them players)

It's BS to keep saying its players fault, we will have this kind of bad players (trollers, leavers, toxic players) in every game out there, you cant deny this, its reality! With this in mind, the devs have to punish them to avoid more of this kind of behavior happen again. Its just like crimes and law: crimes will always happen even in the safest country, but you still need rules to punish bad behaviours.

[Shoryukenfan]

No. I play OW since launch of first game and this is currently an uneccaptle state. Its not BS just because you cannot comprehend it. And I played lot of other games (including TF2, CS:GO, Apex) and there was not a problem like this. Ok TF2 had this bot problem for a while, but otherwise my word holds up.

Maybe it is BS what you talk not what I talk. Just because you disagree with me. Is this how your arguments go? Maybe you don't experience this in a degree I do. Does that make your opinion more valid than mine?

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Originally posted by Shoryukenfan:

No. I play OW since launch of first game and this is currently an uneccaptle state. Its not BS just because you cannot comprehend it. And I played lot of other games (including TF2, CS:GO, Apex) and there was not a problem like this. Ok TF2 had this bot problem for a while, but otherwise my word holds up.

Maybe it is BS what you talk not what I talk. Just because you disagree with me. Is this how your arguments go? Maybe you don't experience this in a degree I do. Does that make your opinion more valid than mine?

Your argument is BS, because we have bad people around the world and its the system/game/government who can reduce their damage to prevent normal people like us to live their life in peace. How this happens? Rigid rules, specially in videogames when you play with people all around the world and different cultures. You cant expect a bunch of trolls will magically change for good without punishment. In this case is about competitive game, for people who play this game seriously, i dont care about trolls in casual games.

[Shoryukenfan]

WTF Dude touch grass. My argument is no BS. Read again and understand. Don't reply before you understood. I won't reply to you otherwise. And I am playing comp. Its not only trolls, its bots and other stuff. I wrote it. Read it. Edit: I think it make no sense to argue with you. I will unsubscribe from this discussion post.

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Originally posted by Shoryukenfan:

WTF Dude touch grass. My argument is no BS. Read again and understand. Don't reply before you understood. I won't reply to you otherwise.

"if people would use aimbots, then its not the game balance the problem but the user."
Read what you said, yes its user fault to use aimbots, but its also a HUGE fault from the company to to let this situation happen. I also play CS2 and rarely see cheaters, so the company VALVE is doing good in this.
Your argument say that its all about the user fault to be a bad player, which is BS. Mine is about the company, they can prevent this BS.