How to rework Cassidy's ult

[R3pliC4NT]

Weren't there some talks a few months ago that he and Brigg would have their ults looked into? What happened? Why is Cassidy's ult still so trash? His ult is such a ******* gimmick. You either just pull the trigger the moment you take the stance and get away dealing piss poor dmg to the heroes in sight or just "believe" in the ult, basically standing tall with hitbox wide open with a glowing head being slow as s***, waiting for them to peek, but they'll never will...

Oh and your team won't push them out. You'd hardly get the chance to flank them, and sometimes you just see the red skull thinking "Hey, there's one at-the-f******-least", but joke's on you 'cause they just went behind cover and your shot missed or their Reinhardt just came out of nowhere and your shot hit the very edge of his shield...

Now of course many are gonna be like he's fine and balanced and I mean yeah, I can hit +10k dmg with him most matches no prob, but the fact that every other hitscan's ult pretty much knocks Cassidy's out of the damn window, hurts my soul as an average Western characters fanboy.

So if you agree, how'd you balance/rework his ult?

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My boy it's literally the best reload in the game. What more do you want?

[EldritchBlast]

Cass main, don't even care about his ult, i just want the range back.

[Скіф]

His ult used to be good in ow1 when there were loads of abilities that could stun you. Now its just meh

[itzDerrio]

dude upset about the only thing that isn’t broken about cowboy 💀💀💀

[Скіф]

Publicado originalmente por itzDerrio:

dude upset about the only thing that isn’t broken about cowboy 💀💀💀

Tbf he got butchered in ow2. His flashbang doesnt stun anymore and his ult got a nerf because there are basically no more skills that can stun the enemy team.

[itzDerrio]

Publicado originalmente por Hays:

Publicado originalmente por itzDerrio:

dude upset about the only thing that isn’t broken about cowboy 💀💀💀

Tbf he got butchered in ow2. His flashbang doesnt stun anymore and his ult got a nerf because there are basically no more skills that can stun the enemy team.

doesn’t his new flashbang disable your abilities , slow you down , and is a homing auto aim with good damage ?& they buffed his roll to give him dmg reduction when he already has above average health and high dmg output

[wizard master結城晶子リ]

Publicado originalmente por AliReplicant:

Weren't there some talks a few months ago that he and Brigg would have their ults looked into? What happened? Why is Cassidy's ult still so trash? His ult is such a ******* gimmick. You either just pull the trigger the moment you take the stance and get away dealing piss poor dmg to the heroes in sight or just "believe" in the ult, basically standing tall with hitbox wide open with a glowing head being slow as s***, waiting for them to peek, but they'll never will...

Oh and your team won't push them out. You'd hardly get the chance to flank them, and sometimes you just see the red skull thinking "Hey, there's one at-the-f******-least", but joke's on you 'cause they just went behind cover and your shot missed or their Reinhardt just came out of nowhere and your shot hit the very edge of his shield...

Now of course many are gonna be like he's fine and balanced and I mean yeah, I can hit +10k dmg with him most matches no prob, but the fact that every other hitscan's ult pretty much knocks Cassidy's out of the damn window, hurts my soul as an average Western characters fanboy.

So if you agree, how'd you balance/rework his ult?

bruh youcan one shot ppl with his ult see if uwait till it fully locks on ucan one shot and do more damage just cause u dont know how his ult works does not mean its trash

[wizard master結城晶子リ]

Publicado originalmente por Grayson.:

His name is "Jesse McCree"

his name was changed dude to the guy who is now fired from blizzard who he wasnamed after being charged with some heavy charges so it was changed to cassidy

[Fremeni]

Who's Cassidy?

[Shepherd]

Something to slightly slow down people in line of site, maybe a quicker timer on the deadeye reticles, some increased armor and negate critical damage while ult is active. Just spitballing

[wizard master結城晶子リ]

Publicado originalmente por CLUTCH:

Publicado originalmente por wizard master結城晶子リ:

his name was changed dude to the guy who is now fired from blizzard who he wasnamed after being charged with some heavy charges so it was changed to cassidy

That's fake news! His name is McCree!! :)

how is it fake when his in game is cassidy mcree

[R3pliC4NT]

Publicado originalmente por itzDerrio:

Publicado originalmente por Hays:

Tbf he got butchered in ow2. His flashbang doesnt stun anymore and his ult got a nerf because there are basically no more skills that can stun the enemy team.

doesn’t his new flashbang disable your abilities , slow you down , and is a homing auto aim with good damage ?& they buffed his roll to give him dmg reduction when he already has above average health and high dmg output

Is this what you mean by broken? Just take a look at Sigma, Sombra, and Ana. Hindering/Slowing abilites are no niche. Especially Ana; no dmg falloff whatsoever, her sleep dart isn't homing but it's a fast projectile, and her nade is very advantageous however it is used. And we didn't even mention her Nano boost. And it's not like she's just better on paper. Cassidy just has to rely on 25 extra HP and that he can land headshots.

His roll is also gimmicky. You just use it to reload. Like not always, but seriously with the amount of area it covers you're not getting away from s***. With Cassidy when you commit to a fight, you either get the kills for the team fight or die trying. And when you show the enemy that you're a big threat, you're gonna get dived non-stop.

Whatever. Hope you get the point. His kit is decent and manageable. Having played games like Tf2 for many hours, where you're not really given much "abilities", helps you realize the importance of positioning, and get a good grasp of it. If you see a good Cassidy, then you should understand he's just taking good angles, doesn't miss shots on easy targets, kills low HPs, and that's it. You don't see him chuck his nade from afar or roll into the tanks.
We're mostly talking about his ult. How slow it is, how impractical it is for the Cassidy, how he gets disrespected while in his stance, etc.

[itzDerrio]

Publicado originalmente por AliReplicant:

Just take a look at Sigma

overtuned since day 1

Publicado originalmente por AliReplicant:

Especially Ana

disgusting since day 1

you comparing him to other characters that have broken ♥♥♥♥ as well, so i dont get your point. he isnt the only one.

Publicado originalmente por AliReplicant:

Cassidy just has to rely on 25 extra HP and that he can land headshots.

mccree dont have to rely on his extra 25 when his dmg output is high from close to medium range which is like 90% of team fights.

Publicado originalmente por AliReplicant:

His roll is also gimmicky.

what? no it isnt. it instantly reloads & has always been used with his FTH combo. couple it with it being a mobility and now has damage reduction - yea some "gimmick" . its known to save his ass in 1v1 situations.

Publicado originalmente por AliReplicant:

with the amount of area it covers you're not getting away from s***.

its not meant to be a runaway or get out of jail free card, you use it offensively

Publicado originalmente por AliReplicant:

With Cassidy when you commit to a fight, you either get the kills for the team fight or die trying.

like any other dps

Publicado originalmente por AliReplicant:

And when you show the enemy that you're a big threat, you're gonna get dived non-stop.

you mean the most oppressive player on the team is the one to get dived or counterpicked? wooow , go figure.

Publicado originalmente por AliReplicant:

His kit is decent and manageable.

its above decent, idk what game youre playing. dudes been hard meta for a reason for years now. he was a little weak when ow2 dropped but that didnt last long and hes back to being cheap.

Publicado originalmente por AliReplicant:

Having played games like Tf2 for many hours, where you're not really given much "abilities", helps you realize the importance of positioning

or just playing overwatch for 7 years, or virtually any FPS.

Publicado originalmente por AliReplicant:

You don't see him chuck his nade from afar

my guy its literally a homing missile with auto aim, does it ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ matter?

Publicado originalmente por AliReplicant:

We're mostly talking about his ult.

yea i know, the only thing thats not broken about him. is it bad? yea sure, but mccree isnt

[itzDerrio]

and i dont know if you ever watch killcams but the headshots cowboy get arent even headshots. with how forgiving this game is with character models (tracer has a head hitbox the size of a tv) and hitbox sizes, most of those headshots they get arent even intentional but just the luck of the game and random crits that overwatch is known for. cowboy can headshot pharah by just aiming at her shoulders or arms