How about you address how bad the dev team is...

[Koba]

What the actual F..... The game is literally terrible since launch and you keep the same devs??

Step 1: Go back to 6 v 6....

Step 2: Fire all that have resisted it and make them explain why.

Step 3: Add the PvE these ex-devs / LIARS promised.

[shawty]

What is so terrible, to you, about this game since launch?

[Balloonicron]

Originally posted by shawty:

What is so terrible, to you, about this game since launch?

6v6 was better.
The Lies.
That would be 100% my issue.

[shawty]

Originally posted by Balloonicron:

Originally posted by shawty:

What is so terrible, to you, about this game since launch?

6v6 was better.
The Lies.
That would be 100% my issue.

In what ways was 6v6 better?

[THAT Guy]

The dev team is quite good actually.
The problem is what actiblizz wants from the game, and what players want aren't the same thing..

In simple terms, those have or are financially supporting the game in any form, are the real root of the problem

[Balloonicron]

Originally posted by shawty:

Originally posted by Balloonicron:

6v6 was better.
The Lies.
That would be 100% my issue.

In what ways was 6v6 better?

Literally everything. If you didn't experience it, I can't explain it.

[Balloonicron]

Originally posted by THAT Guy:

The dev team is quite good actually.
The problem is what actiblizz wants from the game, and what players want aren't the same thing..

In simple terms, those have or are financially supporting the game in any form, are the real root of the problem

Most of the player base isn't a competitive hive-mind. But they made so much money off the competitive hype that didn't start until long after the game came out.

Now people are honestly IMO mostly back to it just being a game.
Competitive isn't even as hard to grind as it was.

[CLUTCH]

Originally posted by Balloonicron:

Originally posted by shawty:

In what ways was 6v6 better?

Literally everything. If you didn't experience it, I can't explain it.

So much this and also why people don't understand if they never played OW1 and how players were royally screwed over.

[GuyFawx]

6v6 tended to make games a bit more stagnant. I miss it as well but youd get matched against that iron shield on def and it was hard to break through it and it just made games a bit boring at times. Now games are a lot more up and down they deaths are felt it was def a different game with 2 tanks but it wasnt more fun

[El Padrino]

PVE is not needed. make a separate game at that point.
and 6v6 is better true.

[DrkCntry]

Originally posted by El Padrino:

PVE is not needed. make a separate game at that point.
and 6v6 is better true.

Overwatch 2 was supposed to be *the* separate game...

[El Padrino]

Originally posted by DrkCntry:

Originally posted by El Padrino:

PVE is not needed. make a separate game at that point.
and 6v6 is better true.

Overwatch 2 was supposed to be *the* separate game...

i dont believe that. does that mean OW2 wouldnt have a pvp component? then what? advertise the new game that is pve only and eventually dies, so majority of players go back to OW1 for the pvp? they were always gonna just add on pve to the pvp package. But somewhere they decided to advertise it as a sequel.

[shawty]

Originally posted by Balloonicron:

Originally posted by shawty:

In what ways was 6v6 better?

Literally everything. If you didn't experience it, I can't explain it.

I did experience it, though.
If you're going to judge something on the basis that it used to be better, you need to explain WHY it used to be better than it is now.
It's unfair to say "X was better when it was Y way!" and have your reasoning be "Well... you just need to 'know' what I'm talking about!"
Not everyone feels the same way as you do about things.

[Balloonicron]

Originally posted by shawty:

Originally posted by Balloonicron:

Literally everything. If you didn't experience it, I can't explain it.

I did experience it, though.
If you're going to judge something on the basis that it used to be better, you need to explain WHY it used to be better than it is now.
It's unfair to say "X was better when it was Y way!" and have your reasoning be "Well... you just need to 'know' what I'm talking about!"
Not everyone feels the same way as you do about things.

If you played it, then you should know. If you don't know, and need an explanation. Then you don't know or you hated it to begin with.

Everyone who was in the 6v6 age knows it was better and why. I'll leave you pooling.

[Balloonicron]

Originally posted by El Padrino:

Originally posted by DrkCntry:

Overwatch 2 was supposed to be *the* separate game...

i dont believe that. does that mean OW2 wouldnt have a pvp component? then what? advertise the new game that is pve only and eventually dies, so majority of players go back to OW1 for the pvp? they were always gonna just add on pve to the pvp package. But somewhere they decided to advertise it as a sequel.

OW2 was supposed to have a PvE mode. It's why my daughter and I pre-ordered it.
They released OW2 and then skipped out on the PvE mode.
They are liars and money grubbers.

[shawty]

Originally posted by Balloonicron:

Originally posted by shawty:

I did experience it, though.
If you're going to judge something on the basis that it used to be better, you need to explain WHY it used to be better than it is now.
It's unfair to say "X was better when it was Y way!" and have your reasoning be "Well... you just need to 'know' what I'm talking about!"
Not everyone feels the same way as you do about things.

If you played it, then you should know. If you don't know, and need an explanation. Then you don't know or you hated it to begin with.

Everyone who was in the 6v6 age knows it was better and why. I'll leave you pooling.

I've been playing Overwatch for a long time. Your logic is terrible.
People cannot be expected to all think and feel the same way about a particular thing. It's unrealistic.
When you're trying to objectively label something to be a particular way because of X reason (i.e. Overwatch has been terrible since launch because of a lack of 6v6), you should explain why.
WHY was 6v6 better? "It just was!" isn't an argument.