Can Someone Explain All the Hate?

[Nox Tenebris]

I don't get what people are freaking out about this time. Is it ethical issues or just a classic example of people hating a sequel game?

[Milkman]

Mainly ethical its not truly a sequel, go look at footage from overwatch1 almost nothing has changed, the graphics are 10 percent better at best a few new maps and heroes and one new game mode, oh and dont forget the battlepass thats the biggest and best new looking thing apart from the first game.

[Ark_3]

After stopping development of the first game for 4 years and promising a ton of content they only delivered on a game mode no one likes anyway, every thing else was cancelled. They made the game free and riddled it with micro transactions. You can no longer obtain anything for free unless you grind for months. The best characters are locked behind the battle pass. Theres more I dont remember because this has been a nearly decade long train wreck, im sure you could find it all on yt.

[Senzawa]

OW team has made some extremely greedy and toxic decision over the last few years. OW2 is literally 5 man OW with a barely prettier skin and a 2 in front of it. I dont want to go over all the things they've done specifically because i know theres people that scan forums like this looking for arguments. If you look it up on google im sure youll find the info you need. Its justified but it doesnt matter anymore. Blizz as a whole isnt doing so great. D4 new season was the nail in the coffin.

[ChiefE]

Originally posted by Valepernikus™:

a lot of player that hate it have never play it. They just angry because it a popular game all they say when ask what they dont like about it is it boring even tho they never have play it or have play like 5 minute max

Where is the PVE that was promised? Wasn't that the only thing actually making it a sequel other than a reskin?

[MadScientistSid]

TLDR : Overwatch went from 1.0 to 2.0 promising a huge PVE campain

2.0 went live was a lazy 1.1 patch (removed maps, changed 6v6 to 5v5 and thats about it and made skins impossible to get F2P), they said they needed few months to make PVE go live

Few months later they canceled the PVE mode that the playerbase wanted and waited for

[shakeyourbunny]

This is what Blizzard has taken from us.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XJPa-23dhTI

Powerful positive messages about teamwork, cooperation, heroism, care for each other, the best in humanity, working together, everyone of every nation regardless of gender, skin color, alignment, ideology is working together for a better, positive cause.

It was still a bit on the woke side, but it breathed the very positive essence of humanity and in the virtues of best our species has to offer.

Blizzard took all of that away and replaced that with hate, greed and made it a vehicle for the woke lgbt trans ideology where everyone is its own avatar of a fringe group and perverted every character also visually to match it.

Bring back Overwatch.

[Imperium]

First game was good because it was one of the founding games of that genre that made it big, this is one is not as good, and not as special in the sea of clones. Kinda sad considering Bliz usually delivered bangers. Maybe I just grew out of it.

[Syvette]

TL;DR - Ethically a horrible company that values greed over players.

Blizzard as a whole has gone from being a beloved developer to one of the biggest anti-consumer devs. You can easily find articles of blizzard employees harassing female co-workers, driving one to unalive themselves, while trying to cover it up. Actively removing working systems to employ ones that will generate more money. This is the sole reason OW1 became OW2, to make more money.

They have the ability to make great games, but then Blizzard fills them with extra monetization (battlepass, cash shop) and make it incredibly taxing for F2P players to unlock anything. Ex. If you wanna unlock an new OW2 character, first you have to select the character you want to unlock, then queue as their role (or fill), then play AND *win* the match. Now rinse and repeat 35 times per character.

If you never owned OW1. You'll have to play at least 150 matches to unlock all characters.

[popCorn & coffee]

I loved Overwatch 1 and played it a lot for years... and uninstalled it a week after the "patch" that launched Overwatch "2" .... haven't installed since.

I don't hate the game or anything, but I think they simply took something good and made it worse in every way just for money.

[Lugzan]

horrible company as all western Devs preach about ethics and dont practice anything but the real gem is TLDR: OW2 is just other game so they could change they monetization scheme

[shinobi]

game is hot trash and the company doesn't care

[Orion]

Its an sequel game? its more like OV version 2.1 ... then an sequel.
Its the same as OV but bigger push on micro/macro transactions.

[Merlonlock2727]

Originally posted by Valepernikus™:

a lot of player that hate it have never play it. They just angry because it a popular game all they say when ask what they dont like about it is it boring even tho they never have play it or have play like 5 minute max

I've played ow2 since season 1, and is boring.

[Rhila]

1- TF2 bots owners who ruined TF2 in first place.
2- followers, who just follow what others do and say.
3- Valve fanboys who dislike anything others than old Valve games.
4- angry "alpha male chads" who are playing dead games.
5- anti-woke, who are angry at any game with females or black heroes.
6- people who have no idea about anything but agreeing with one of the above.

[VulgarMonkey]

Originally posted by MadScientistSid:

TLDR : Overwatch went from 1.0 to 2.0 promising a huge PVE campain

2.0 went live was a lazy 1.1 patch (removed maps, changed 6v6 to 5v5 and thats about it and made skins impossible to get F2P), they said they needed few months to make PVE go live

Few months later they canceled the PVE mode that the playerbase wanted and waited for

I guess what's interesting about this is, aside from the roster size and map/game mode changes (you forgot to mention they added two maps and a game mode to replace those they removed), is it basically is the same game - the same game everyone was seemingly capable of enjoying. Yes, the PVE wasn't available on release, and no the PVE we are getting won't be the PVE they original announced, but the PVP is essentially the same. It's pretty interesting how people can retroactively say the PVP gameplay is no longer worth it, or enjoyable, due to all of these non-PVP gameplay factors.

Which kind of ties into what OP is asking about. Is the game actually bad? Is that why it's hated? Absolutely not. At it's core it's still the OW experience. It's still unique compared to it's competitors. It's still basically the game you use to enjoy playing. A series of factors and events seemingly irrelevant to gameplay is what has created such distaste towards it.

To each their own though. Blizzard could charge the soul of your first born son for a skin (OW skins aren't the most expensive by comparison btw) and I'd still happily play with the default skins. If it doesn't affect gameplay, it doesn't affect my fun.

And I'd much rather enjoy things than whatever the hell everyone else is up to.