end times,(spoiler) just because fantasy wasnt popular?

[Boost Me;-) minimis]

Did they just made the end times, to make a reboot because fantasy is less popular than 40k so they could make the age of(swegmire) or age of ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ because it feels more like 40k?(many planets etc) . I hated it, the end times by itself is a pretty good idea, but it should have been just something in the far future that will happen, but not really like they did now(just to make a reboot) Its pretty sad .

[awc]

It's been touched on in other topics, but in essence the answer is yes. It was for a chance at more money, an easier game for new fans, and a way to get a tighter hold on their intellectual property (changing race names).

No idea how successful it has been because I refuse to touch Age of Swagmar.

[Google Blair Mountain]

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από awc:

It's been touched on in other topics, but in essence the answer is yes. It was for a chance at more money, an easier game for new fans, and a way to get a tighter hold on their intellectual property (changing race names).

No idea how successful it has been because I refuse to touch Age of Swagmar.

High sales at the start, but now it's doing even worse than FB sales, last I looked anyways. Many new players think the rules are dumb, and most old players wont touch it because it's no longer warhammer to them.

[type b cluster entreprenuer]

Games workshop really screwed themselves here?
Bringing God Incarnates onto the battlefield and lore isn't exactly fun.
Plus there are unfair rules that can only make other people ragequit.

[Procrastinating Gamer]

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από Spooky Scivir:

Games workshop really screwed themselves here?
Bringing God Incarnates onto the battlefield and lore isn't exactly fun.
Plus there are unfair rules that can only make other people ragequit.

And since they'll eventually stop making models with the square bases for use on movement trays, all the people keeping Fantasy 8th Edition alive are eventually going to have to start buying models off eBay or buying Mantic Games' fantasy models (which are a damn-sight cheaper than anything from GW).

And of the latter, there are going to be those people who think "Well, I've bought all these Kings of War models for Fantasy, maybe I should see what sort of game KoW is." And so the Mantic fanbase will grow while GW's shrinks. Not bad for a company that started by just making cheaper fantasy models that could be used for "any fantasy wargame".

[Khloros]

Its GW trying to get a tigher hold of copyright names, same thing when they relaunched all their paints, same ♥♥♥♥ diffrent names.

For the most part fans are PISSED! they nuked the old story, and have turned warhammer FB into sigmar and firends, which is just a reskinned warhammer 40k.

GW does not grasp the concept that there will always be a high spike in sales on the relise of something new, but it quickly fades out once the reules have been looked at and peole establish and army based on that.

But mostly fans are just pissed, and i would not blame them, nuking the universe is a ♥♥♥♥♥♥ way to drive a story.

[Boost Me;-) minimis]

Warhammer fantasy reminds me more of D&D (Ferun) fantasy world, which i really like. So i looked up the story and was pissed off that i kinda missed it.Hope they make a new fantasy, with like something like a second timeline setting or something. I would like to see that, some fans maybe too. Dunno.

[Procrastinating Gamer]

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥™:

Warhammer fantasy reminds me more of D&D (Ferun) fantasy world, which i really like. So i looked up the story and was pissed off that i kinda missed it.Hope they make a new fantasy, with like something like a second timeline setting or something. I would like to see that, some fans maybe too. Dunno.

That probably would've been the better way to go - reboot it, keep the characters similar enough to not invalidate their old models but give themselves the creative freedom to introduce new stuff.

But they don't consider themselves a games company anymore, don't do market research, assume only 20% of their customers actually play their games and are solely interested in selling models, nothing else. They don't even care about licensed products like this or Total War Warhammer because "video gamers don't buy models".[www.beastsofwar.com]

So... yeah; fat chance of that happening any time soon.

[shinros]

It was the simple reason of fantasy not making money. That's it we won't know how AOS is doing until their report.

[Boost Me;-) minimis]

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από shinros:

It was the simple reason of fantasy not making money. That's it we won't know how AOS is doing until their report.

but killing a franchise is something a lot different. Also they get money from gaming kinda, since the devs had to pay that they can make it. Also there is an coming total war warhammer game.

[Procrastinating Gamer]

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥™:

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από shinros:

It was the simple reason of fantasy not making money. That's it we won't know how AOS is doing until their report.

but killing a franchise is something a lot different. Also they get money from gaming kinda, since the devs had to pay that they can make it. Also there is an coming total war warhammer game.

Yeah, but that financial report I linked above? They quite clearly said that they don't care about the money they get from licensed products since most of the people buying them won't go on to buy the models. They're totally focused on the models above everything else (with the possible exception of their shareholders).

[Equalibrium]

Games Workshop has been dying for about eight to ten years. I wanted to play 40k about that time, but couldn't afford it/justify the cost. At 200+ dollars to build and army that isn't play ready, the cost was a little bit excessive.

10 years later, the same army would cost me around half a grand. I'd rather buy a computer, a used car, or a guitar for that kind of mony.

[Boost Me;-) minimis]

Its more about collecting and/ hobby modeler . If they are worthless, there is no point(in collecting)edit*: for some people, mostly.

[Gotha]

As a D&D snob I always dismissed Warhammer as plebeian (based on the absurd aesthetic of 40k), but I was so ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ wrong. Now I'm only discovering the depth and expansiveness of the Warhammer Fantasy lore, like... a year after it died. Now that's karma, lol.

Thanks for releasing these amazing games in a franchise that you killed, Games Workshop. FFS

[Boost Me;-) minimis]

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από Masoch:

As a D&D snob I always dismissed Warhammer as plebeian (based on the absurd aesthetic of 40k), but I was so ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ wrong. Now I'm only discovering the depth and expansiveness of the Warhammer Fantasy lore, like... a year after it died. Now that's karma, lol.

Thanks for releasing these amazing games in a franchise that you killed, Games Workshop. FFS

well, it wasnt games workshop releasing it. Fatshark just paid for the whole license.

[Gotha]

Maybe another company will just pick up Fantasy Battle where Games Workshop left off under license.