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Is this the same universe at Warhammer 40K?
I'm somewhat confused by the title of the game, but essentially: does this game take place in the same universe as Warhammer 40K or is it a completely unrelated game?
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Rodso Oct 20, 2015 @ 1:18pm 
Originally posted by Dead Against Zombies:
Basicaly its all stolen from lord of the rings any way.

P:S games work shop has a LOR game out lol

lolololol what a load of rubbish dont think i have ever heard so much rubbish before
Captain Crowbar Oct 21, 2015 @ 1:15am 
Isn't WH40K called that because it's Warhammer fantasy set 40,000 years in the future?
Provoked Tree Oct 21, 2015 @ 4:10am 
It is less "Warhammer in the future" more, "We have this popular franchise, Warhammer, so lets call our futuristic game Warhammer 40,000"
The actual universe in 40k is closer to reality than Warhammer Fantasy
illathid Oct 21, 2015 @ 2:25pm 
Originally posted by darth.crevette:
There's also that knight in silver armour that appears during the End Times, rumoured to be Kaldor "Mary Sue" Draigo himself... but that's more of a nod, if anything.

Pretty sure that's supposed to be a sigmarine actually. It's "foreshadowing" the Age of ♥♥♥♥.
brizahd Oct 23, 2015 @ 12:54pm 
Originally posted by Quaker Pig:
Originally posted by Gungar:
Warhammer used to be in the same universe as 40k but they scrapped that idea long ago.

Still considered canon in the Liber Chaotica, a chaos cultist in Warhammer fantasy dreams of the future and sees chaos forces in 40k.


I was just coming to post that they tease a connection in that book. Just read the chapter about black crusades. It talks about the eye of terrorr and the legions, ect. That chapter and the one about beserkers actually says traitor legions of the astartes. ASTARTES. Then you have sketches af spacemarines with guns and tank like creatures... So yeah may be a connection.

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Relkin43 Oct 28, 2015 @ 12:51pm 
idk maybe...end times lore had lizardman spaceships and the skaven used a device left behind by the 'old ones' to talk to...Eldar? Which would make sense given that warpgates = webway; I've seen a lot of stuff going back and forth on the issue but I think it's really up to you to rationalize it in w/e way makes you happy.
mdcpaladin Nov 30, 2015 @ 8:24pm 
Originally posted by Rodso:
once upon a time there was a therory that the warhammer fansty planet was in the 40k universe but was surrounded by warp storms or something. but that has long since been dropped
my theory is warhammer fantasy takes place well before Long Night, or the dark age of technology, whichever. in HH, its been mentioned how we literally know nothing before those times, or the knowlwedge is so buried on the highest levels that nobody knows what happened well before those ages. so could warhammer fantasy be a bygone age so long ago no records exist? it makes sense to me so a whole new story arch can be created without interfering with HH or 40k

i guess i should note there is lore that pertains to various periods WAY back, but...could this be one thats not remembered? oin a different system that was just lost to history? or has black library or whoever makes this stuff flat out said they are seprate and do not share the same universe?
Last edited by mdcpaladin; Nov 30, 2015 @ 8:25pm
Fork_Q2 Dec 6, 2015 @ 4:54pm 
Originally posted by I am the liquor:
Originally posted by Rodso:
once upon a time there was a therory that the warhammer fansty planet was in the 40k universe but was surrounded by warp storms or something. but that has long since been dropped
my theory is warhammer fantasy takes place well before Long Night, or the dark age of technology, whichever. in HH, its been mentioned how we literally know nothing before those times, or the knowlwedge is so buried on the highest levels that nobody knows what happened well before those ages. so could warhammer fantasy be a bygone age so long ago no records exist? it makes sense to me so a whole new story arch can be created without interfering with HH or 40k

i guess i should note there is lore that pertains to various periods WAY back, but...could this be one thats not remembered? oin a different system that was just lost to history? or has black library or whoever makes this stuff flat out said they are seprate and do not share the same universe?

If they are in the same universe, Warhammer Fantasy takes place on a planet the Imperium never discovered. Earth exists in 40K, it's the seat of the Emperor, WFB isn't set on Earth.
Last edited by Fork_Q2; Dec 6, 2015 @ 4:55pm
mdcpaladin Dec 6, 2015 @ 5:10pm 
Originally posted by Fork_Q2:
Originally posted by I am the liquor:
my theory is warhammer fantasy takes place well before Long Night, or the dark age of technology, whichever. in HH, its been mentioned how we literally know nothing before those times, or the knowlwedge is so buried on the highest levels that nobody knows what happened well before those ages. so could warhammer fantasy be a bygone age so long ago no records exist? it makes sense to me so a whole new story arch can be created without interfering with HH or 40k

i guess i should note there is lore that pertains to various periods WAY back, but...could this be one thats not remembered? oin a different system that was just lost to history? or has black library or whoever makes this stuff flat out said they are seprate and do not share the same universe?

If they are in the same universe, Warhammer Fantasy takes place on a planet the Imperium never discovered. Earth exists in 40K, it's the seat of the Emperor, WFB isn't set on Earth.
ehhh the similarities between the empire and the imperium are glaring. I dont recall it being called earth in HH or 40k. its always called Terra. is it stated WFB isnt set on earth? what is WFB anyway?
Rodso Dec 6, 2015 @ 5:15pm 
Originally posted by I am the liquor:
Originally posted by Fork_Q2:

If they are in the same universe, Warhammer Fantasy takes place on a planet the Imperium never discovered. Earth exists in 40K, it's the seat of the Emperor, WFB isn't set on Earth.
ehhh the similarities between the empire and the imperium are glaring. I dont recall it being called earth in HH or 40k. its always called Terra. is it stated WFB isnt set on earth? what is WFB anyway?
you know that terra is another name for earth right
Fork_Q2 Dec 6, 2015 @ 5:25pm 
Originally posted by I am the liquor:
Originally posted by Fork_Q2:

If they are in the same universe, Warhammer Fantasy takes place on a planet the Imperium never discovered. Earth exists in 40K, it's the seat of the Emperor, WFB isn't set on Earth.
ehhh the similarities between the empire and the imperium are glaring. I dont recall it being called earth in HH or 40k. its always called Terra. is it stated WFB isnt set on earth? what is WFB anyway?

Warhammer Fantasy Battle.

Maybe the canon changed recently, but Terra is the new name for Earth, but otherwise it's the same planet as ours. The God Emperor of Mankind was born in the Eastern Roman Empire, and his backstory contains references to real world religons and nations he subjugated or flat out destroyed.

There was no outright claim from GW that the Fantasy world (whatever its name) isn't Earth, but the geography isn't the same. It's an lot smaller than our Earth, has two large moons, and exists in a solar system made up of more planet than ours.
Rodso Dec 6, 2015 @ 5:54pm 
Originally posted by Fork_Q2:
Originally posted by I am the liquor:
ehhh the similarities between the empire and the imperium are glaring. I dont recall it being called earth in HH or 40k. its always called Terra. is it stated WFB isnt set on earth? what is WFB anyway?

Warhammer Fantasy Battle.

Maybe the canon changed recently, but Terra is the new name for Earth, but otherwise it's the same planet as ours. The God Emperor of Mankind was born in the Eastern Roman Empire, and his backstory contains references to real world religons and nations he subjugated or flat out destroyed.

There was no outright claim from GW that the Fantasy world (whatever its name) isn't Earth, but the geography isn't the same. It's an lot smaller than our Earth, has two large moons, and exists in a solar system made up of more planet than ours.

the imperial place is said to be built on top of the himalyain mountains and the webway project was deep below in the himalyain mountains so yeah its earth. also mars
Last edited by Rodso; Dec 6, 2015 @ 5:55pm
mdcpaladin Dec 6, 2015 @ 6:23pm 
Originally posted by Rodso:
Originally posted by Fork_Q2:

Warhammer Fantasy Battle.

Maybe the canon changed recently, but Terra is the new name for Earth, but otherwise it's the same planet as ours. The God Emperor of Mankind was born in the Eastern Roman Empire, and his backstory contains references to real world religons and nations he subjugated or flat out destroyed.

There was no outright claim from GW that the Fantasy world (whatever its name) isn't Earth, but the geography isn't the same. It's an lot smaller than our Earth, has two large moons, and exists in a solar system made up of more planet than ours.

the imperial place is said to be built on top of the himalyain mountains and the webway project was deep below in the himalyain mountains so yeah its earth. also mars
i didnt mean to say that 40k wasnt earth. meant to suggest earth was in WFB. but now that you mention the moons.....it couldnt be the same.
mdcpaladin Dec 6, 2015 @ 6:26pm 
Originally posted by Fork_Q2:
Originally posted by I am the liquor:
my theory is warhammer fantasy takes place well before Long Night, or the dark age of technology, whichever. in HH, its been mentioned how we literally know nothing before those times, or the knowlwedge is so buried on the highest levels that nobody knows what happened well before those ages. so could warhammer fantasy be a bygone age so long ago no records exist? it makes sense to me so a whole new story arch can be created without interfering with HH or 40k

i guess i should note there is lore that pertains to various periods WAY back, but...could this be one thats not remembered? oin a different system that was just lost to history? or has black library or whoever makes this stuff flat out said they are seprate and do not share the same universe?

If they are in the same universe, Warhammer Fantasy takes place on a planet the Imperium never discovered. Earth exists in 40K, it's the seat of the Emperor, WFB isn't set on Earth.
oh if it is the same universe, mankind did discover it, populate it, and was lost during Long Night and never found again. that would explain why it feels so much like 40k, just medieval.
it's in the 40K universe, except when it isn't. if you play warhammer, you should be familier with how much they backtrack on what they say.
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