METAL GEAR RISING: REVENGEANCE

METAL GEAR RISING: REVENGEANCE

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UnkendTech 2013 年 12 月 19 日 下午 5:39
SteamOS (Linux) support
do you have any plans to Support SteamOS?
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wnc_21 2014 年 3 月 8 日 上午 11:53 
There are different linux distros. For example Ubuntu doesn't ask user to use a terminal, it can install drivers even simplier than windows. And this is not only Ubuntu can do it without the terminal. Windows has different problems like viruses and so on. Antiviruses hold processor time and it is not very good for gaming. When you need to install steam or some another program you don't need to go to the internet and search, you just open Software Center(or something like this) and type name of the program - thats all you need. It is very simple to use linux. Just try it and you will see.
wnc_21 2014 年 3 月 8 日 上午 11:57 
Also you don't need to reinstall linux every day. I use my arch linux more than two years without reinstalling and it works the same way as just installed version, because linux don't have reester and works well any time. So you don't need to install drivers from command line
最後修改者:wnc_21; 2014 年 3 月 8 日 上午 11:58
Baron von Whimsy 2014 年 3 月 8 日 下午 1:32 
引用自 wnc_21
There are different linux distros. For example Ubuntu doesn't ask user to use a terminal, it can install drivers even simplier than windows. And this is not only Ubuntu can do it without the terminal. Windows has different problems like viruses and so on. Antiviruses hold processor time and it is not very good for gaming. When you need to install steam or some another program you don't need to go to the internet and search, you just open Software Center(or something like this) and type name of the program - thats all you need. It is very simple to use linux. Just try it and you will see.

引用自 wnc_21
Also you don't need to reinstall linux every day. I use my arch linux more than two years without reinstalling and it works the same way as just installed version, because linux don't have reester and works well any time. So you don't need to install drivers from command line


I'd sooner work in binary than use Ubuntu. My experience with Ubuntu users is not positive to say the least.
Also, I program on Windows, so using Linux would actually be more than slightly counter productive, when it comes to testing.

But to address your statements:
Not good for gaming? Games were pretty much exclusively made for Windows in the past, and graphics card drivers are only really JUST starting to be made by vendors for GPUs in Linux, so, that's not quite true..?
Unless you're trying to say that your antivirus takes up significant processor time, in which case, wow, what the quack are you using? (Seriously. I'd love to mess around with whatever exhibits such behaviour.)

I've no idea why you'd reinstall Windows daily. I'm assuming exageration, but still, the average end user has no need to reinstall Windows, pretty much ever. Also, you might want to look into something like Deep Freeze if you honestly have such issues.

I really like the picture you painted with the package management software, but it's actually a radically different reality, considering the application you're looking for has to be in a repo that the manager actually has listed, and if it's not, well, gosh, adding the repo to it probably involves.. the shell.
So, right back there. Again.
Not to mention that you could already have the same set up on Windows, Steam being the obvious example of a very simple GUI repo service, others are available via google.
It's not like that's a Linux only possibility.

I've yet to use a version of Linux that hasn't required shell use at some point, and whilst that's fine for me, I mean, it's actually pretty rare that I don't have to use a CMD prompt in a day, personally, I still have no interest in utilising an operating system that I currently don't develop for.

Viruses. Linux has Viruses, but not as many as Windows, which might have something to do with the fact that the (end user) install base Linux to Windows ratio is SLIGHTLY skewed in Windows' favour? Something about aiming for the most numerous systems that match your needs..? I mean, what would be the point in infecting a server, when you want a botnet? Or infecting a server when you're looking for personal information? (Servers TEND to have that encrypted.)
http://www.unixmen.com/meet-linux-viruses/
http://www.linux.com/learn/tutorials/284124-myth-busting-is-linux-immune-to-viruses

I'm assuming that "reester" is actually "restore", so I'm not entirely sure why you don't think HDD back up doesn't count. Maybe because there's a command line involved?



I'm actually quite fond of Linux, and I'm very interested to see where it'll go, especially if they make more of a super special effort to hold the average-intermediate windows user's hand, but holy duck are you not going to convert me, to primary OS Linux user-hood with BS arguments like those.

I mean, why didn't you go with "Linux is much more modular than Windows, allowing updates to happen without constant restarts" or "Linux checks for dependancies FOR you, when you install programs, and cleans them up when you uninstall" or "The actual OS takes up considerably less than half of what Windows requires of your system resources, such as RAM" or "It's open source, so you want to change something? You go right ahead. Curious about how something is done? Check out the source!" and so on.

Of course, the resources argument is actually pretty pointless, when you consider how cheap RAM is these days.

Really uninformed argument, considering you're apparently a Linux user.
wnc_21 2014 年 3 月 8 日 下午 1:56 
I just mean that people which use linux will not switch to windows because of many reasons. Windows is cool and many people use it and many people don't use linux because gaming developers don't care about this platform but people still want to play games they love.
So those who won't switch to windows any way(like me) just want to have possibility to play games too. We could argue about "WHAT IS THE BEST OPERATION SYSTEM EVER" but it doesn't make sense.
wnc_21 2014 年 3 月 8 日 下午 1:59 
Also I am glad that hardvare vendors like nVidia and amd made some movements and improved their drivers and now it is actually very close to windows ones, I mean performance.
Baron von Whimsy 2014 年 3 月 9 日 上午 4:44 
引用自 wnc_21
I just mean that people which use linux will not switch to windows because of many reasons. Windows is cool and many people use it and many people don't use linux because gaming developers don't care about this platform but people still want to play games they love.
So those who won't switch to windows any way(like me) just want to have possibility to play games too. We could argue about "WHAT IS THE BEST OPERATION SYSTEM EVER" but it doesn't make sense.

We're not arguing which is better at the technical level, because Linux is. That's not even in debate.

As for why to switch to Linux, I'd love for someone to actually give a valid reason to. All I ever get in response to that is just variations of "Because it's a superior operating system!", by which logic, we should all be on Windows 8, instead of Windows 7.

It's pretty awesome that there's real driver support now, I was actually just having a conversation about that earlier, about how it used to feel like it was just the most half assed support previously.
Realmonster 2014 年 3 月 10 日 下午 2:05 
@adam

There is no argument to convince somebody to move to linux. If you like it, then use it, if you don't like it, then dont use it. For me, the trouble and problems I get with windows are greater than the trouble and problems I get with linux. As linux grows, it will get more user friendly and eventually you will want to try it out. Although you sound like you already use linux in some aspects of your life, I'm just laying down how most conversions go.
Baron von Whimsy 2014 年 3 月 10 日 下午 2:49 
引用自 Realmonster
@adam

There is no argument to convince somebody to move to linux. If you like it, then use it, if you don't like it, then dont use it. For me, the trouble and problems I get with windows are greater than the trouble and problems I get with linux. As linux grows, it will get more user friendly and eventually you will want to try it out. Although you sound like you already use linux in some aspects of your life, I'm just laying down how most conversions go.

Indeed.
Although, I often find it weird how people will drop something like Skype because of security/privacy concerns ( {連結已移除} ), but keep an extremely insecure OS like Windows.

I'm waiting for things to mature more on Linux before I personally make a permanent switch, but server wise, the instant Samba4 becomes viable as an AD DC, those remaining Windows servers (I know. Dear GOD, I know..) are gone. >_>
最後修改者:Baron von Whimsy; 2014 年 3 月 10 日 下午 2:49
wh1sper_123 2014 年 4 月 2 日 上午 5:40 
引用自 wnc_21
I just mean that people which use linux will not switch to windows because of many reasons. Windows is cool and many people use it and many people don't use linux because gaming developers don't care about this platform but people still want to play games they love.
So those who won't switch to windows any way(like me) just want to have possibility to play games too. We could argue about "WHAT IS THE BEST OPERATION SYSTEM EVER" but it doesn't make sense.

well, based that we used linux when there was no game... there is only one chance now that games showed up. linux users ditching some of their most favourite games for others that run on their platform

i used to have ps3 beside linux (still do, but it is nothing short of dust collector now). and i ditched all of my most loved games. dark souls 2... not buying, metal gear rising+ground zeroes... not buying (list continues). math is simple, there are other games that can be played now.

my best guess is that only way to persuade publishing companies to start developing for linux is lowering their sales by not buying their product and buy something else that is available no matter how much one wants some game. effect is doubled, not only they don't get your money, you promote their competition. simple as that
wh1sper_123 2014 年 4 月 2 日 上午 5:52 
引用自 Adam
引用自 wnc_21
I just mean that people which use linux will not switch to windows because of many reasons. Windows is cool and many people use it and many people don't use linux because gaming developers don't care about this platform but people still want to play games they love.
So those who won't switch to windows any way(like me) just want to have possibility to play games too. We could argue about "WHAT IS THE BEST OPERATION SYSTEM EVER" but it doesn't make sense.

We're not arguing which is better at the technical level, because Linux is. That's not even in debate.

As for why to switch to Linux, I'd love for someone to actually give a valid reason to. All I ever get in response to that is just variations of "Because it's a superior operating system!", by which logic, we should all be on Windows 8, instead of Windows 7.

It's pretty awesome that there's real driver support now, I was actually just having a conversation about that earlier, about how it used to feel like it was just the most half assed support previously.

asking for a reason why to ditch windows for linux already tells the answer. there is no answer for you since you don't see the incentive. only answers you'll ever receive are tailored to person who gave it to you, which more than often matters nothing in your case. and this usually results in nothing but troll thread and pissing contests

only way i could ever see to answer that is by asking questions back. these are just most basic reasons on why linux would be a choice to move to it
- do you like 100% control over your os and workflow?
- do you value choice?
- do you value freedom?
- are you happy when some company decides product was a financial bust and they stop developing it even though you found it awesome
Lu2 2014 年 4 月 2 日 下午 7:10 
i was never use linux on pc. i realy hope that steam machine will chance that.
Android - linux
pc - windows
???
Lynx 2014 年 6 月 17 日 下午 8:07 
Tossing in my voice for Linux support. I hear great things about this game and would love to play it, but moving away from windows prohibits me from buying any Windows-only titles.
intok 2014 年 6 月 23 日 上午 8:00 
I need my Metal Gear fix so bad! But I refuse to buy a console or Windows!
Doko 2014 年 6 月 23 日 上午 9:31 
引用自 intok
I need my Metal Gear fix so bad! But I refuse to buy a console or Windows!

Well then prepare for a really long ass wait then.
Nightwalker 2014 年 7 月 17 日 下午 9:48 
Game looks good... oh wait, it's 2014 and this doesn't run on Linux.

I don't know about you guys, but I'm sick of dual-booting, so I only buy Linux games. Sheesh, I've even shelved Skyrim, and have turned up my nose at the Skyim MMORPG because there was to be no Linux support.

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