How can i beat sundowner

[Alix_D]

ive been stuck on him for days and i just can kill him! Ive been watching vids on youtube but nothing seems to work

[Ichmag 🔑🌙]

you cant beat him. hes ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ invincible

[Sehkh]

ninja run in a circle around him and spam light attacks, if you do it right none of his attacks will land, but it will take a while

[E.P.D. Gaffney]

What's giving you trouble? If you don't want to cut the shield, you can use the sai on it.

[VyaxUltima]

You have two options for Sundowner.

The first is to practice the cutting angles in Blade Mode (the angle is aimed with mouse/right stick).

Second is to simply move behind him while his shields are up. He'll put them down immediately.

Sundowner's attacks in his shield phase are all very telegraphed, so blocking them shouldn't be too bad.

[[SKVR] Clener74]

He always does the same attack upon starting the fight; parry that for an easy QTE which will knock his shields open then give you a Blade Mode prompt. Each time, two of the tubes holding shields will turn blue - aim your cuts at those.

For the fight itself, if you don't feel confident with your parrying, you can make-do with baiting him into attacking then running and jumping out of range to hit him while he recovers.
Go for maybe 3 hits, then get away from him. This might even get him to charge at you again, at which point you just parry and cut 2 more of his shields.

1st phase can be done like this, and if need be, you can literally not destroy his shields to prevent his 2nd phase - which has attacks that most certainly require quicker reaction times. Never did it like this though, so I can't say if he stays with the same moveset the entire time should you keep him locked to phase 1.

For the helicopter you can take it down with an RPG or homing missile. I personally just ignored. Either took the hits or used ninja run to deflect them.

Key thing Sundowner teaches you is to take your time with Blade Mode. Most times he puts his shields up, he stays there long enough for you to aim carefully. He can sometimes put the shields back down much sooner, but it's just a matter of patience.

If you're good at parrying, 2nd phase is basically blocking his combo until he does the final hit, which has a lot of startup time and you can easily jump out of it to get your own combo started. His swings with the lamp posts can be blocked like any other attack too, if they're too quick for you to jump over them.

Even then, there's always jumping and doing aerial parry if necessary, assuming you bought it.

[JustKampi]

Originally posted by Ichmag:

you cant beat him. hes ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ invincible

You can interpret it in many ways

[Gregor]

Before the fight, and right before the BD. Mistral and BD monsoon fight, there is a nanopaste chest. Get it, save, reload. Repeat until maxed out. And also do NOT go below 10 health in the BD Mi and the BD Mo fight, to avoid wasting any nanopastes. Maybe you can restart right before you walk into the sundowner fight to get max health again, but I'm not sure

[E.P.D. Gaffney]

Originally posted by barioxu1627:

Before the fight, and right before the BD. Mistral and BD monsoon fight, there is a nanopaste chest. Get it, save, reload. Repeat until maxed out. And also do NOT go below 10 health in the BD Mi and the BD Mo fight, to avoid wasting any nanopastes. Maybe you can restart right before you walk into the sundowner fight to get max health again, but I'm not sure

Isn't there a nanopaste right before Sundowner if you want to do that?

[[SKVR] Clener74]

Originally posted by E.P.D. Gaffney:

Originally posted by barioxu1627:

Before the fight, and right before the BD. Mistral and BD monsoon fight, there is a nanopaste chest. Get it, save, reload. Repeat until maxed out. And also do NOT go below 10 health in the BD Mi and the BD Mo fight, to avoid wasting any nanopastes. Maybe you can restart right before you walk into the sundowner fight to get max health again, but I'm not sure

Isn't there a nanopaste right before Sundowner if you want to do that?

There is one at the platform that unites the bridge to the helipad with the door Raiden exits from, yes.

[Wereriche]

If you're lazy to cut his shields, Defensive Offense to the side when he raises his shield. I-frames should protect you from the Shield Blast.

[Exarch_Alpha]

Originally posted by SKVR Clener74:

He always does the same attack upon starting the fight; parry that for an easy QTE which will knock his shields open then give you a Blade Mode prompt. Each time, two of the tubes holding shields will turn blue - aim your cuts at those.

You can remove all his shields that way, which for me is the only option as the stick in my PS 5 controller is complete s h i t regarding aiming.

[[SKVR] Clener74]

Originally posted by Exarch_Alpha:

Originally posted by SKVR Clener74:

He always does the same attack upon starting the fight; parry that for an easy QTE which will knock his shields open then give you a Blade Mode prompt. Each time, two of the tubes holding shields will turn blue - aim your cuts at those.

You can remove all his shields that way, which for me is the only option as the stick in my PS 5 controller is complete s h i t regarding aiming.

My Xb360 controller's right stick has drifting issues if I use it by itself to aim and slash, but otherwise I can do it fine using it just to aim and pressing the attack buttons to do the slice itself. Is that possible with your controller or is the stick that bad?

[Wereriche]

Uh.... If you manually angle the slice, do you just pull and hold the analog stick to your angle and let go?

Or do you actually making the motion yourself? ie. moving your analog up then pull down to make the slice?

[[SKVR] Clener74]

Originally posted by Gάrάnd:

Uh.... If you manually angle the slice, do you just pull and hold the analog stick to your angle and let go?

Or do you actually making the motion yourself? ie. moving your analog up then pull down to make the slice?

If you use the stick by itself, the motion is as if you were using a real sword - you move it outwards to set the angle, then release it back to neutral to bring the sword onto the target.

You have to let the stick go back to neutral relatively fast, otherwise the game won't reg it as an attack. This does mean you can sometimes fall victim to drifting issues if your controller has them and you have to be exact with your precision - such as in Sundowner's case.

You can't be too hasty when it comes to drastically changing the angle, as an accidental return to neutral while you adjust will make you attack. This is also what makes it possible to slice extremely quickly in Blade Mode by doing straight lines back and forth, since with good speed, you'll be crossing the stick's neutral point over and over very fast. Two times per move.

If you want to use it merely to aim, you have to keep the stick held on your desired angle and press either attack button to do an exact slice. This has to be done slower, as if you press the button again too early, their preset directions will take priority - light attack button for unaimed horizontal slices and heavy attack button for vertical ones.

[Wereriche]

I guess it's a none issue for me to just letting go of the analog stick since my DS4 doesn't have drift. :V

I mean... how do you even press light atk when you thumb is on the right stick? What? You do a claw?