help with Monsoon & bloodlust

[PurplFedora]

does anyone have any advice for doing maximum damage with the bloodlust so that I can avoid the 4th bs vehicle spam? im trying to S-rank Monsoon on revengeance, and the parts where he throws choppers and cars at you is giving me a lot of trouble. if he does the 4th wave, it's basically over and you need to restart cause there's no way you can see and cut all of them. i'm trying to avoid having him do the 4th wave by using a fully-charged bloodlust on him so that he goes to the next phase transition before he gets up on the pillars. however, it seems super inconsistent and most of the time he either has a little bit of health left or i can't get the bloodlust hit in time and he starts attacking again. for every time he gets the pink aura, i do [EM Grenade > Chop his head > 2-5 slashes > Fully-charged bloodlust when he gets up] which i just call "the formula". in phase 2 i try to get him to the spinny wheel in 2 formulas, and phase 3 i try to get him to the final segment in 1.

[-LaggySnake-]

Originally posted by "meat":

if he does the 4th wave, it's basically over and you need to restart cause there's no way you can see and cut all of them.

I thought so too for some time, but I realized the mistake for me was that I went way too far away from Monsoon, causing the vehicles and helicopters to move so quickly that it wasn't possible to cut all of them without them exploding in your face. It's best to stay at the middle of the stage.
Dunno the right times to use the pincer blades though, sorry.

[Ichmag 🔑🌙]

I just ran a big U whenever he did the attack (starting right in front of/below monsoon, you would run straight away from him, then left/right and then back into his direction) and youll be fine

[[SKVR] Clener74]

Not sure if much changes in Revengeance mode, but Monsoon with Bloodlust on Very Hard for me was basically this:
Upon starting the fight, charge for Whirlwind and wait for his choice of movement. He will either attack or run around you. He's pretty much always more likely to attack, so I normally just released the button before the charge could happen, doing Dust Devil then a parry.

If he does choose to just run around, do the fully charged Whirlwind. Then create distance again, at which point feel free to use either of the two moves based on how confident you're feeling about the situation.

When you get him to 70% health (which is where he gets slightly dizzy and switches to throwing vehicles for the first time), immediately go for Turbulence before he recovers and jumps away, releasing the button as soon as it's charged. I preferred to do light sword attacks afterwards, as you don't have enough time to hit another Bloodlust attack.

Upon chopping his head off, I ran into it with the sliding attack, then did Dust Devil, charging for Turbulence to release the moment he "regroups" in the air and is about to land right next to me. Turbulence won't just stun him, it'll knock him away too - at this point you do any move of your choice. I liked just running up to do either another Dust Devil or Whirlwind.

I remember hitting him with Heat Burst multiple times for massive damage, though those moments were a product of the way I managed the timing of the fight (liked to test my luck every now and then) rather than part of the strategy so to speak. Best chance to hit him with it is when you get him to around 70% with Turbulence - he's programmed to get stunned upon getting damaged down to that amount. Like this, he takes long enough to recover that you can charge and land all the hits of Heat Burst.

When it comes to the vehicles, do them only if you need EMP grenades. Otherwise, slice the first times, until he throws up to 3 vehicles at you. When he gets to 4 vehicles and upwards, just run from corner to corner dodging them, using the slide attack for extra speed if need be. You might be wanting to slice the vehicles anyway to farm a good longest combo bonus, since if you're using Bloodlust you'll likely not be dealing a fair number of hits in general, but I wouldn't recommend it.

For when he's at 40% or lower, I simply don't attack him until I land an EMP, at which point it's simply repeating what I mentioned before. It's helpful because he's always knocked away.

You can't make him skip the sections where he throws the vehicles at you because those are based on health, which means that if need be, the game dramatically lowers your damage at the same time it makes him re-activate magnetic mode automatically.

You can, however, sometimes make him skip the transition to what I call his 3rd phase - when he's at 40% or lower. If you damage him hard enough, he can skip the giant wheel attack, and straight-up begin doing phase 3 attacks at you. It caught me off guard ruining multiple of my no-hit attempts. It was terrible.

[PurplFedora]

I tried out Clener's and Ichmag's strategies, and they seem to work pretty well. The lowest I've gotten him with zero damage is 10% where he started doing some attacks for some reason and I wasn't expecting it, so I got hit a few times. Still having a little trouble with evading the vehicles, and the Sai flurry attack during Phase 1 has caused me many restarts (I can never seem to get the angle right, I'm always a little bit off during one of the swings and Raiden doesn't block because of it). Thanks for the help guys, I had zero idea that you could charge combos with the Bloodlust instead of just holding Y once (yeah I know, I'm an idiot).

[[SKVR] Clener74]

Yeah, that Sai combo is a nightmare.
That's why I never like staying too close to him.
And you're welcome!

[Necrilem]

I mean, if you just want to S-Rank the fight, you dont necessarily need the to do it with no damage. Just pick up some drops from the cut vehicles and get the max combo of 30 at the end with blade mode. That's how I got the S-Rank at least. I got hit once in exactly the scenario you are describing. Perfect score sheet still results in S-Rank

[Necrilem]

Also, I never use EM-Grenades on him. A fully charged sai stuns him too, which is what i used

[PurplFedora]

Update: I managed to S-rank him yesterday after getting hit once while he was at 10% health and he started attacking mid-Bloodlust combo, but I wasn't satisfied. So I came back today and managed to pull a no-hit S-Rank after blocking his 10% health attacks. Thank, guys! With the two "Fair" bosses out of the way (I No-hit S-Ranked Jetstream Sam before Monsoon), I'm not sure which boss I should go after next, considering that Mistral and Sundowner have other enemies that will ruin a no-damage score if you aren't careful, Defensive Offensive doesn't seem to work in Armstrong's 1st phase, the leg attacks of Excelsus seem impossible to dodge, and I haven't tried out the DLCs yet.

[[SKVR] Clener74]

Congrats!
And Sundowner is definitely the quickest to no-damage out of those two. You can take out the helicopter with a homing missile while Sundowner has his shields up, and then get him to 2nd phase without taking damage. 2nd phase on itself is a piece of cake, especially if you pause and restart from it. In the brief amount of time that Sundowner takes to begin moving, you can absolutely obliterate his health. He's rather weak.

For Blade Wolf DLC:
Khamsin is also easy to no-hit, given that most of his attacks can be dodged by staying in the air (something that Blade Wolf's attacks make him quite good at), and you can deal a lot of damage each time you stab him with the chainsaw by sneaking up on him.

Excelsus does require a fair bit of effort before you cut off the first leg, but once the 2nd half of the fight starts (where Excelsus falls down onto the field), you can totally destroy its health with maxed out Bloodlust.

Time it well enough and you can land literally all 3 of the charged attacks before it gets up again. And afterwards, you use Whirlwind and Turbulence on the leg that's to your right - they reach. Doing those two things gets it down to 10% health even on Very Hard. At that point you just have to dodge the plasma cannons and wait for the chance to trigger the scripted event.

[Necrilem]

Congratulations! For more tips on S-Ranking things on Revengeance, I can highly recommend this extremely extensive guide (honestly most impressive guide i've ever seen)

https://www.trueachievements.com/game/Metal-Gear-Rising-Revengeance/walkthrough/4