Characters lose all in and get money back?

[Asuka ｢THE DINGLE｣ Soryu]

I've seen this several times in both games and it's really starting to get annoying. I thought there was some rule I didn't know about since I'm new to poker, but I asked around and nobody knows any poker rules where this happens. I'll see someone go all in while I have great cards, everyone else folds and I go all in against them, I win, but they still get maybe half the money back and act like nothing happened?? Earlier I saw Claptrap bust out Brock and end up with 57,000, then the next turn he went all in and I beat him. My total money then went from 10,000 to 28,000, and his dropped to 20,000. What the hell is going on?

[Darth Cannabis]

Its called a side pot.

If you and somone both go all in, and they have more money than you, then all the remainder after covering your all in goes into a side pot. If no one else is able to cover the rest of thier bet (that side pot) they automatically get it back.

You can never win more than what you bet, times the number of players to call that bet. Any money bet beyond what you can cover, is another pot, only obtainable by players with enough money to cover the value of that extra bet. If someone were to cover that bet, then after dealing with the main pot, those players hands would be compared for who gets that side pot.

In other words, if you have half as many chips as someone, the best you can do, is take half thier chips.

Do a screenshot the next time it happens, and I can use it as a concrete example to explain the action in detail. Dealt cards for a while back in college, and after dealing with Omaha hi-low 3 way split pots as many times as I have, I can definately tell you how a hand plays out.

Thou you did say all you need to let me know the Claptrap could not be busted via an all in from anyone else. You said he had 57000, and theres only 100000 on the table total. If he has 57% of the chips, even heads up (one other player with all other chips), he can only lose 43000, leaving him 14000.

From the sounds of it, it played out as, your 10000, taking 10000 from claptrap, and 8000 in blinds/previous bets by other players. If his dropped all the way to 20000, it also sounds like another player at table won a side pot accounting for the rest lost by claptrap.

[Asuka ｢THE DINGLE｣ Soryu]

I didn't figure it was a side pot since usually the game tells you when there is one, but it's possible I'm not paying enough attention, I'll nab a screenshot next time

[Asuka ｢THE DINGLE｣ Soryu]

I also forgot to mention, at the time the only other player at the table was Sam, who had folded (Brock and Ash were both busted out already)

[Darth Cannabis]

Originally posted by Ayden "The Dinkster" Burgers:

I also forgot to mention, at the time the only other player at the table was Sam, who had folded (Brock and Ash were both busted out already)

Ok that's a bit more info on the hand that gives me another variable. Now the 57000 of clap, was that before or after blinds and opening bets, as was your 10 000? Were you in the pot for 10000, total, or were you allready in for 8k when you bet that last 10 000? Who was small blind/big blind and what were the blinds?

To figure this out, I am simply trying to account for every chip on the table (all 100000 in play). If ash and brock were busted completely out, and clap had 57000, then that is 43000, to figure out between you and sam. What were you and sam's chipstacks at, prior to blinds, and who were the blind? How much betting was there preflop, and WHEN did sam fold?

I have several theories on how you end up at 28000, but clap traps total should be higher, unless someone else took chips from him as well. to go to 20000, claptrap needs to lose 37000, and if you only end up with 28000, then that is 9000 (sorry, 18000, since up to half of that 28000 is comprised of your own chips) missing from table. I would assume that that would therefore be side potted to 3rd player, as nothing else makes sense, or you gave some wrong chip totals.

[Darth Cannabis]

Pointing out that sam folded, supports the picking up 8 k in blinds, and if blinds were 1k and 2k, its fairly easy to see preflop action, especially if sam was the big blind.

Assuming those blinds, then I would guess that everyone put 2k and covered the blinds, and then as big blind, Sam put a minmal bet to protect thier blind. Then someone went all in with 10k, clap then went all in and that is when Sam folded.

If that was the action, and you win, then you would end up at 28000 (your in for 12k,take 12 k from clap, and 4k from Sam). Clap trap however, based on that 57000 total given (and if allready in for blind it would be 59000), and only losing 12 k to the pot total, should still have about 45000. So that 20k number would leave 25000 missing from table.

The other possibility I also see is 2k and 4k blinds, and YOU were big blind. In this scenario, you went all in to protect your blind and clap goes all in to call. In this case, your in for 14k, and claptrap would also lose 14k again giving you 28000 (Sam folding without even calling the blind has no investment), but based on the total given previous for clap, that would place him at 43000 still, no where near 20000.

[Asuka ｢THE DINGLE｣ Soryu]

Ah damn, I went back to see everyone's totals and get more info but I just remembered I already played a few more hands the other day, I'll get back to you if I see this in my next tournament, but thank you for the info!

[Asuka ｢THE DINGLE｣ Soryu]

Alright just happened again, everyone except Brock folded and I had a pair of aces so I went all in at roughly 10,000
Brock had about 29,000 and had bet himself down to 13,000, then went all in against me
But as the river finished, my all in had dropped me to 0 while his left him at 10,000?
And if it matters, we had the same hand so the pot was split

[Asuka ｢THE DINGLE｣ Soryu]

And so I don't miss anything else, I'll be recording the game now

[Walter]

I like the game because i dont need to think hard or learn anything about poker to actually play it.