Shadowrun Returns

Shadowrun Returns

›Kolanaki Jul 27, 2013 @ 1:14pm
Well... This is an easy choice.
Just went to see if there were any new pistols for me and there are two shiny new ones better than my current weapon.

The Ruger Thunderbolt, with 14 dmg, 19 RNG and 12 CAP for 500

and

A Colt Manhunter, with 14 DMG, 19 RNG, and 16 CAP for 425.

75 nuyen less for a gun that's exactly the same, except for having a larger magazine. Why the Hell would I pay for the 500 one?
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NoGas Jul 27, 2013 @ 2:01pm 
They have different accuracy ratings as well. The tier of assault rifle after the AK47 starter (i forget the names, forgive me!), the one that is slightly more expensive, but has a smaller clip, has about 3% stronger accuracy.

There are differences in accuracy ratings for weapons, they just don't show right away.
Big Mad Wolf Jul 27, 2013 @ 2:14pm 
Thats missing, more detail about the weapons. Also they are talking about upgrading weapons, but so far it doesn't seem to be available, sadly.
›Kolanaki Jul 27, 2013 @ 2:23pm 
Originally posted by Swoo:
Isn't the range bugged on the display of weapons? It's possible the Ruger has more distance than the Colt.

Is it? I haven't noticed.


Originally posted by Big Mad Wolf:
Thats missing, more detail about the weapons. Also they are talking about upgrading weapons, but so far it doesn't seem to be available, sadly.

I hope they add weapon mods and ammo types in the future. I don't remember which gun it was, but the last PnP campaign I ran in, my dude had this gnarly pistol that fired depleted uranium rounds, had SmartLink, a laser sight, a flashlight (both normal and thermal), a 4x scope, and a storage container that could fit 2 additional mags (or items of equal size; he kept drugs in it).
Last edited by ›Kolanaki; Jul 27, 2013 @ 2:25pm
Alex Core Plus R Jul 27, 2013 @ 2:27pm 
Originally posted by › The Cool Side of the Pillow:
Just went to see if there were any new pistols for me and there are two shiny new ones better than my current weapon.

The Ruger Thunderbolt, with 14 dmg, 19 RNG and 12 CAP for 500

and

A Colt Manhunter, with 14 DMG, 19 RNG, and 16 CAP for 425.

75 nuyen less for a gun that's exactly the same, except for having a larger magazine. Why the Hell would I pay for the 500 one?

Thats exactly what the manufacturer of the colt wants you to say. Undercut the competition. Yay free enterprise!
Last edited by Alex Core Plus R; Jul 27, 2013 @ 2:27pm
GM Pax Jul 27, 2013 @ 2:28pm 
Originally posted by › The Cool Side of the Pillow:
75 nuyen less for a gun that's exactly the same, except for having a larger magazine. Why the Hell would I pay for the 500 one?

In PnP, the Thunderbolt fires BURSTS. So quickly that, in SRR, it should be firing like an SMG: 1AP should put 2-3 attacks on your target.

I didn't think to find out if SRR actually does it that way. But if it DOES ...? Worth it. Worth it and a LOT more, besides.
Last edited by GM Pax; Jul 27, 2013 @ 2:31pm
›Kolanaki Jul 27, 2013 @ 2:28pm 
Originally posted by Ten-Foot Pit:
Originally posted by › The Cool Side of the Pillow:
Just went to see if there were any new pistols for me and there are two shiny new ones better than my current weapon.

The Ruger Thunderbolt, with 14 dmg, 19 RNG and 12 CAP for 500

and

A Colt Manhunter, with 14 DMG, 19 RNG, and 16 CAP for 425.

75 nuyen less for a gun that's exactly the same, except for having a larger magazine. Why the Hell would I pay for the 500 one?

Thats exactly what the manufacturer of the colt wants you to say. Undercut the competition. Yay free enterprise!

Slagging corps... They even got me with this drek!
DarkCarnage Jul 27, 2013 @ 2:39pm 
hmm maybe i'll buy both and give them a chot to see what happends lol.
Daemoc Jul 27, 2013 @ 3:11pm 
Aye, I just took both on my current mission, I wanted to see if there was a difference as well.

No difference that I can see. Range, crit, damage, skills... all the same. I guess there could be some other difference under the hood, but everything stated in game is the same.
Lacynth40 Oct 17, 2013 @ 10:02pm 
Yeah, it may be a screw up in the game itself, because the Thunderbolt in PnP fires bursts, which would more than make up for the 75 nuyen price difference, and the slightly small magazine.

I would also like to see different ammo used, and some more weapon accessories. I'd love a narcoject, with the ability to dump different types of drugs and poisons into it.
daskindt Oct 18, 2013 @ 2:51am 
Shadowrun Returns divides weapons up into ridiculous tiers that only make sense in a cRPG progression scheme.

In the P&P, the Manhunter and the Predator are pretty much functionally identical competitors. The Thunderbolt is a Lone Star exclusive, released in 2054, that only does Burst Fire. It's supposed to fire 3 shots so fast that you can't separate them through hearing. It just makes one loud report, like a thunderclap.
Fugitive Unknown Oct 18, 2013 @ 3:04am 
The the Salvette

Originally posted by Tsurja:
The Ares Predator isn't just a pistol. It's the inofficial Shadowrunner badge of office.

And the Savalette Guardian was the official Shadowrunner badge of Cheddar Heads.
That and the Ares Squirt
Static Oct 18, 2013 @ 4:26am 
Originally posted by Tsurja:
The Ares Predator isn't just a pistol. It's the inofficial Shadowrunner badge of office.
The Predator is definitely the most widely recognized, but I've stuck with the Colt Manhunter since the Fields of Fire sourecbook came out.

Heh, never really thought about brand loyalty in a world where most brands are made up...
Criewry Dec 27, 2016 @ 3:24pm 
SO since this is the first link that comes up in google thought I'd clarify that as of 27/12/16 the ruger thunderbolt has a higher crit chance. Test with pistols 7. Sorry for waking dead thread
›Kolanaki Dec 27, 2016 @ 6:29pm 
Originally posted by Enigma:
SO since this is the first link that comes up in google thought I'd clarify that as of 27/12/16 the ruger thunderbolt has a higher crit chance. Test with pistols 7. Sorry for waking dead thread

Has it always been that way, or is this a recent change?
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