Confusion over new armor quality tier Masterwork

[Nadlug]

So im looking at a pair of Samurai armors one specialist grade the other masterwork.
Defensive wise the Mastework quality piece has superior defences but penalty wise it has the larger stat penalty's when compared to the Specialist quality.

Is this an oversight? as it would seem to me that the "masterwork" quality would be inferior to any other tier in even the slightest manner.

[Zura_Janai]

Seems like an oversight in terms of mechanics as grades work as tiers (multipliers, if you wish)
*EDIT* I'd be ok with inkresed penalty on masterwork if there was higher and rarer tier that negates it (like legendary or alike.)

[Nadlug]

Yeah i notice how all tiers have incresaing penalty's of thier preceding tiers

[Shidan]

Screenshot? As far as i know, all penalties either decrease or stay the same as the armour increases in quality. I've never seen or heard of a penalty increasing. :/

[Zombie101]

are number going up form like 0.90x to 0.94x 1 .00x = 100 precent 0.90 be 90% that skill though I don't have a crew good enough anymore to see if something got broken.

[Nadlug]

Originally posted by Shidan:

Screenshot? As far as i know, all penalties either decrease or stay the same as the armour increases in quality. I've never seen or heard of a penalty increasing. :/

Fetching them now, but i can say they definately do not reduce penalty's with higher qualitys.
I will say this though, the added protection does outpace the growing penaltys as the penalty's grow in hundredths of a decimal. But they do grow. Versus the extra protection which range from hundredths to tenths decimal point.

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1101949333
Masterwork chest plate

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1101949359
One tier lower, specialist chest plate

it also applies to lower tiers.

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1101949380
Masterwork leggplates

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1101949419
Specialist Legplates

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1101949437
High Grade Legplaters.

Each higher tier has noticably better protection but also marginally greater penalty's.

Currently i dont have any examples of Normal, shoddy or prodotype tiers.
I also dont have any mods that indicate they modify gear stats.

[Shidan]

Those penalties are decreasing as it goes up. They are multipliers to those stats, so lower numbers are worse.

For instance, "stealth x0.10" means your stealth only functions at 10% of your skill level. A "stealth x0.08" would only function at 8% of your skill level.

[Nadlug]

Specialist grade stealth is .09 where as mastework is .10 so then the penalty to specialist is 9% versus mastework which is 10%

I know ive haid 6 shots of vodka this evening but clearly .1 is a bigger number (and bigger penalty) than.09 right?

Maybe i have had too much to drink but the math just isnt clicking in my mind right now.

[Shidan]

Your math isn't wrong, but you're misunderstanding the penalty system. :)

A 0.09 is a 91% penalty. While a 0.10 is only a 90%.

[Zombie101]

Going to use Stealth skill say your 100
This be as your wearing the samuri armor only
Mastercraft 0.10x make skill 10 or 10% of skill total
Specity 0.09x make skill 9 or 9% of the skill total

If stealth if skill was 50
Mastercraft 5 stealth 10% 0.10x
specitiy 4.5 stealth 9% 0.09x

They work my % are stacked to if you have armor and leg stealth more.

[Danteet]

Think about it like this. 1.00x is no modifiers at all. so if theres a penalty on armor for combat speed at 0.90x that means its at 90% of your base skill, so if its at 0.88x its at 88% of your base skill.

[Nadlug]

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