REQUEST: Stealing items from NPCs' inventories (not containers)

[Endarire]

Greetings, all!

I assume NPCs have inventories. I also assumed that I could sneak next to a foe and loot his personal inventory if I had a high enough Stealth and Thievery skill. Turns out only sneak-fighting (not sneak-stealing) was allowed. I would like that sneak-stealing option too.

Thankee!

[Zura_Janai]

Originally posted by Endarire:

Greetings, all!

I assume NPCs have inventories. I also assumed that I could sneak next to a foe and loot his personal inventory if I had a high enough Stealth and Thievery skill. Turns out only sneak-fighting (not sneak-stealing) was allowed. I would like that sneak-stealing option too.

Thankee!

you can only steal from sleeping characters.
Stealing armor and weapons from alert people on guard duty like in skyrim is ridiculous.

[Nadlug]

Originally posted by TheLivedOnce:

Stealing armor and weapons from alert people on guard duty like in skyrim is ridiculous.

It takes true dedication to your job to ignore the fact that your dangly bits are now directly exposed to sub freezing wind.

[|IPG| TheDez]

Originally posted by Nadlug:

Originally posted by TheLivedOnce:

Stealing armor and weapons from alert people on guard duty like in skyrim is ridiculous.

It takes true dedication to your job to ignore the fact that your dangly bits are now directly exposed to sub freezing wind.

And a fascinating sense of urgency to then warn you not to steal anything, sneak thief.

[Erei]

Originally posted by TheLivedOnce:

Stealing armor and weapons from alert people on guard duty like in skyrim is ridiculous.

As a Skyrim NPC would say :" Huh ? Must be the wind....". I mean, that's what they think when they take an arrow in the face and can't find you.

I think it's fine as it is. Even though sleeping in armor, and have somone steal it is ridiculous if you ask me.

[Hatsune Neko Gaming]

Originally posted by Erei:

I think it's fine as it is. Even though sleeping in armor, and have somone steal it is ridiculous if you ask me.

would have to agree on that one.

[Nadlug]

Originally posted by Erei:

I think it's fine as it is. Even though sleeping in armor, and have somone steal it is ridiculous if you ask me.

Yeah people seem to forget that Armor weight can vary but it is always very tight fitting.

[Endarire]

"Ridiculous" matters less than "It's a game and if my skill/check is high enough, I can/will do it."

Run my naked victims! Run!

[Erei]

Originally posted by Endarire:

"Ridiculous" matters less than "It's a game and if my skill/check is high enough, I can/will do it."

Run my naked victims! Run!

No it doesn't matter less. The game is made to be rather realistic and immersive, without sacrificing too much.
Stealing someone money with a skill check would be realistic and fine. Stealing the armour and weapon he is wearing is ridiculous. On top of that it would lead to multiple exploit and situation even more ridiculous, like that video of Skyrim where the player removed all the armour and weapons of the entire guard watch of Whiterun (except of the helmet and boots, don't ask me why), and started a fight. And everyone was fighting with fists, while being naked.
While it's funny and I had a good laugh, it's hardly realistic.

Then you have the whole balance to consider. And the use for it. And in both case, I see more issues than solutions.


As it is, stealing gear is possible on a sleeping character. It's rather ridiculous but I'm fine with it because it's probably complicated to have a mechanic where people remove their armour when they go to sleep and put it back when they wake up.
Doing the same on a very awake person would be dumb.

[Nadlug]

Originally posted by Erei:

(except of the helmet and boots, don't ask me why)

Probably an added show off factor. "i took of their shirt and pants without couching their hat and shoes.

It is a very silly concept of fantasy

[Goweigus]

taking wielded weapons off of sleeping people in this game would be silly because they all sleep on their backs and most have their weapon on their back and not their hip

if some slept on their stomachs i could see it being possible, same goes for their backpacks i suppose