Espher not joining squad

[moy babylon]

I currenly lack the amount of trained people to assault tengus vault and i decided to break the prisoners out with stealth. I broke Espher out first and carried him/her/it outside and a bit further away, i then put it down and it just started running around and didint join my squad. Do i HAVE to break them out with force to get them to join me?

[Shidan]

You can do it without combat, but it's nearly impossible. You must never pick the prisoners up, as it breaks their AI contract, which is what controls the joining. So combat is generally the only way.

[moy babylon]

oh ok thanks

[F'xit Fastah]

It's not nearly impossible. But you need at least 2 and be quick. First part is get passed the front gate, just run passed them and hide. Easy during night or frequent dust storms. Second part get to top and second floor. KO as much as you can, before less they have 1 minute to wake up, put them into the empty jails. Get your best assassin on the lowest ramp and watch how they come in one by one to get their mates out. KO them and pick them up with your second and put them in jail too. NO more empty jails free some "true"prisoners for distraction and room, but I did this just for fun. Without being detected you won't lose reputation with UC and Espher joined. Don't forget to loot the Warden, if he is locked up, it's not considered a crime ^^

[bunny de fluff]

The moment you put them in a cage your relation with them suffers.

[F'xit Fastah]

Yes I saw that too. But only when some other guards were awake. Went from 100 to 83, no biggie

[Mitsurugi]

I found a way around this. It has worked on 3 different saves now.

Sneak in, pick the cage, NOT the shackles, pick them up, sneak out to the base of the tower past the gate and around the corner from the entrance gate so you're out of sight, put them down, pick the shackles, leave the area. They should still be yellow arrow when you highlight them, and should still be following you. I had to run from Tengu's Vault to almost the Grey Desert border for them to stop and give the join dialog, but It worked, and I was able to reproduce it.

I haven't tried freeing them and then picking them up after a guard downs them and taking them out of the tower but staying close enough that they can recover and walk again and then proceeding to leave the area, so I cant say if that will work.

Hope this helps someone.

[Bomb Bloke]

Originally posted by Mitsurugi:

I haven't tried freeing them and then picking them up after a guard downs them and taking them out of the tower but staying close enough that they can recover and walk again and then proceeding to leave the area, so I cant say if that will work.

It worked for me. I believe Shidan's right that carrying can break things, but my impression is that it only does so if you carry him too far away before allowing him to recover and resume following.

[Mitsurugi]

Originally posted by Bomb Bloke:

It worked for me. I believe Shidan's right that carrying can break things, but my impression is that it only does so if you carry him too far away before allowing him to recover and resume following.

Shidan is right. I believe that if you leave the area while carrying them it will break it. And that's what most will do. That's how I ended up on this page. When sneaking failed, and they got downed, I grabbed them and ran to the waystation to the south. When they healed enough to leave their recovery coma, they just ran of into the desert. Confused I googled my issue and found this discussion.

I believe the trick is not carrying them out of whatever invisible zone they have to cross to trigger the successful escape event. And that zone's size varies depending on the event. Random slaves only have to walk a little ways. I had to cross half the desert with Espher. I only found this on accident when I fudged stealth attempt #978 and noticed I had the pick up option.