A single Squin guard took out all of Shinobi thieves guild by himself (also KO'ed my squaddie lol)

[Captain Nerdiepie]

One of my character lost a foot limb and I had to resort to thievery in Squin to get the money fast. I got found out and a single Hundred Guardian chased me all the way to the Hub.

Once in the Hub, I bait him to Shinobi's den to let the thieves take care of him.

Dude then KO'ed all but one thief before going down. And then gets back up in a minute to KO the last dude.

I tried to gang up on him and took a 90 to the chest got OHKO.

I felt so bad for what I've done but it got much worse from there.

The slavemongers came in shortly after and enslave everyone before most can get up. (Shek dude hits so hard that everyone is out for like 15 min+)

I was also enslaved but left in the hub since there were too many bodies to carry, so I easily escape and also managed to save 3 other thieves from slavery...

But thief boss is gone.

Thief trader no longer has arms.

No one has any weapons because the slavemongers took them.

What have I done?

[Morkonan]

There isn't a Thieve's Guild in Squin.

https://kenshi.fandom.com/wiki/Squin

The Thieve's Guild members are sufficient to take out certain low-level bandits, but they are far from being "uber ninjas." And, the ones in The Hub frequently aggro on bandit groups pathing just outside the wall of The Hub and end up getting injured and even killed after repeated engagements. They do heal, but sometimes there are plenty of fights.

In short - Don't train tough mobs to the Thieve's Guild. :) And, it's worth noting - Especially don't train any units from any of the major factions to the Thieve's Guilds in those towns... A bloodbath may be the result. (In The Hub, if a interfaction conflict results, the Thieve's Guild can do fairly well, but can be decimated too. The Boss and Fence are really not of any remarkable combat ability.

Wandering Assassins, however, are deadly. They will usually appear if you're in dire straits somewhere. (Or, more likely to appear.)

How did you aggro a Hundred Guardians unit? They're not terribly tough, but should be neutral to you unless you ticked them off. :) (Nevermind, reread and now see you had stolen in Squin. Stealing from the Shek isn't advisable... :) Well, unless you're "good" at it. Note: The Tower that's not a police station has Tech Hunters in it. Don't ever steal from Tech Hunters as they've got just too much good stuff for you to buy.)

PS: Crazy (ie: "Fun") stuff like this should be expected in Kenshi play. The faction system is practically built for these kinds of interactions to occur. :)

[Raymond]

I didn't know there is a thieve guild in Squin, maybe you mistaken Squin with the Hub. Tho it's not surprised the shinobi got bodied. They have no armor whatsoever against plank and fragment axe, and katana/ninja blade are absolutely worthless against endgame enemies with heavy armor

[bunny de fluff]

That guard is so committed to have chase you all the way to the Hub. At this point I would consider an import lmao

[russmiller4445]

I have a similar problem. I'm stationed in almost every UC towns. All at once in three cities, the thieves came under attack from city guards. they were caged & bandaged at the police station. The game doesn't allow me to pay their bail. A short coming in the game. In time, they have all disappeared. Do they respawn in time, or are they gone for good? Is this the fate of the Shinobi that they are eventually wiped out?

[Shidan]

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από russmiller4445:

I have a similar problem. I'm stationed in almost every UC towns. All at once in three cities, the thieves came under attack from city guards. they were caged & bandaged at the police station. The game doesn't allow me to pay their bail. A short coming in the game. In time, they have all disappeared. Do they respawn in time, or are they gone for good? Is this the fate of the Shinobi that they are eventually wiped out?

This is a very common issues, as the thieves often get into fights with guards for performing illegal actions. After enough fights, their faction relations drop to hostile, and they become kill on sight.

You can reset their relations with an import, which will also respawn the thieves. But other than that, they will eventually be wiped out if you spend enough time in town.

[russmiller4445]

ok, thanks. I've been playing without mods for years. I think I'll download a few.

[Morkonan]

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από Shidan:

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This is a very common issues, as the thieves often get into fights with guards for performing illegal actions. After enough fights, their faction relations drop to hostile, and they become kill on sight.

You can reset their relations with an import, which will also respawn the thieves. But other than that, they will eventually be wiped out if you spend enough time in town.

Just pointing out - This is one of the hazards of staying too long in a town with multiple factions in it. The longer that town's cell remains loaded and active, the more likely some interaction will kick off faction mechanics. (Usually spurred on by a mutual enemy making an appearance and everyone engaging in attacking it in such a way that a friendly-fire incident occurs.)

It's almost like "Shark" is a "teaching moment" sort of thing that one would find in a tutorial that intends to expose the player to "this is how crazy stuff can get when you stay in a town too long. :)"

After awhile, one generally has a good idea of what towns can remain relatively stable and which ones are more likely to have something catastrophic occur.

I enjoy these mishaps... It makes the game feel much more "alive." I'd like a little bit more care taken in Kenshi II to help with stability (Aggro-ranges would be one. I think Shinobi get an aggro-radius boost at the top of their tower, much like ranged boost.), but by no means would I want it to be assured. It's just too darn interesting to drop.

[Rambler]

If the Shek are hostile to the Shinobi they'll clear out the thief tower in Admag and you can loot it if you need cash.

[Wanted111who]

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από YariMurai:

I didn't know there is a thieve guild in Squin, maybe you mistaken Squin with the Hub. Tho it's not surprised the shinobi got bodied. They have no armor whatsoever against plank and fragment axe, and katana/ninja blade are absolutely worthless against endgame enemies with heavy armor

OP meant he stolen in squin and agro hundred guardian from squin all the way to hub, its though job and depends on rng luck. Many bandits spawn in between the 2 cities, hungry or dust alike.

Respect op for getting able to pull this off.