Kenshi
g0jira Oct 2, 2016 @ 3:58pm
weapons - what stat do they train
hi,

quick question, katanas train dex, heavy trains str, but which exactly trains saber or polearm? that bothers

thanks
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Shidan Oct 2, 2016 @ 4:04pm 
All weapons train both skills, but it is proportional to their weight. So look at how many kilograms it weighs. The lighter it is, the better it trains Dexterity. Heavier, trains Strength.
Goweigus Oct 2, 2016 @ 4:19pm 
Originally posted by Shidan:
All weapons train both skills, but it is proportional to their weight. So look at how many kilograms it weighs. The lighter it is, the better it trains Dexterity. Heavier, trains Strength.

Does the heavy weapon train strength without regard to the weight of what the character is moving with other than the weapon? / A guy with a 60lb sword carrying 60/70 pounds trains strength from that weapon at a lower rate than a guy with a 60 lb sword carrying 60/40 pounds?
Shidan Oct 2, 2016 @ 4:28pm 
The strength xp gained from using a weapon is separate from the passive strength xp gained from being encumbered.

So in your example, both characters would gain the same amount of strength from using the weapon. BUT the second character would level his strength faster overall, due to the passive walking xp.
g0jira Oct 3, 2016 @ 1:23am 
thanks! :)
amaoto Oct 3, 2016 @ 11:46am 
My Squad's strength training usually involves filling the main inventory with 10 raw iron (9kg per piece) then fill the rest with either first aid kits or animal teeth. Carrying someone/something gives x2 XP rate and +30kg weight(iirc). It should make getting atleast 30-40 strength easy

EDIT:
For some reason, polearms train dex much slower despite it being 6kg only
Last edited by amaoto; Oct 3, 2016 @ 11:47am
Blueelzebub Oct 3, 2016 @ 6:10pm 
Originally posted by Shidan:
The strength xp gained from using a weapon is separate from the passive strength xp gained from being encumbered.

So in your example, both characters would gain the same amount of strength from using the weapon. BUT the second character would level his strength faster overall, due to the passive walking xp.

Is that really how it works? In the tooltip for strength it gives two separate xp percentages that seem inversely proportional based on encumbrance. So if you're unemcumbered your percentage gain for combat is 100%, but your xp rate for walking will be 0%. Conversely if you are gaining xp for walking, you'll have a reduced percentage for combat. Is the tooltip lying about actual gains?

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=774592589

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=774592569
Shidan Oct 3, 2016 @ 6:28pm 
Well ok then, I guess things have changed. I don't recall ever seeing those numbers changing relative to each other. But they certainly are, as shown by your screenshots.

Gotta love early access games and their constantly shifting rules! :)
Blueelzebub Oct 3, 2016 @ 6:46pm 
I don't think I'll ever trust myself if what I see is different from what Shidan knows.
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