How to effectively combat security spiders?

[Swagnificence]

Currently trying to raid ancient labs and these spiders are wrecking my guys. All my guys have specialist grade or higher plate armor (one in samurai) and chainmail, with like mk1+ weapons and around 30/40 for combat stats and spiders still wreck em. So am fighting these spiders wrong or do I justhave to git gud

[Hatsune Neko Gaming]

even getting good wont be a help.
they are fast attackers and do a fair amount of damage.
best to lay out your camp beds before entering so you can save people who are injured.
and vanilla has 1v1 for attacks, you could try some of my attack slots mods to up that chance, but even then, they can still wreck you.

[Swagnificence]

Yeah i was doing the camp bed thing, and i was eyeing up that mod too

[Hatsune Neko Gaming]

i use my 3x one. and lately attacked a ancient tech lab. lost 1 person who was to low level.
they are dangerous places.

[Fatbill]

Try to drag them outside, for one thing.
Heavy weapons, hackers, and some other weapons have penalties when fighting indoors.
If fighting indoors against robots, be sure the fighters that switch to backup weapons, have something that works, and not katana class weapons (short cleaver is the overall ideal backup weapon for this and other reasons).
Have a couple crossbow shooters stay outside and have them hold position.
And try to not aggro the enitre place at once: a few fights against 2-3 spiders at a time is better than one against 7-8.

Those are the things that work for me.

Cheers.

[Bragdras]

Ranged weapons will guarantee safe picks (Then again crossbows make a joke of the entire game)

If you want to pretend there's tactics try to have a guy defense + activate taunt and block and have a second or third person on the sides beating on the spider, when the spider inevitably starts switching target swap the taunt & block roles around.

If the spider starts going ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ and literally never stops spinning while lunging at everyone in seconds there's basically nothing you can do short of stepping away or weathering the ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ , just like every animals, thankfully it doesn't always happen.

As for when someone inevitably gets knocked out midfight, pick them up and pull them away from the spiderbots before these buffoons start slowly standing up and get killed by cleaving attacks.

Oh, and bonus damage against robots will do wonders against them, of course, so hackers and cleavers ahoy - meaning Paladin's cross.

[rkjesseryu]

Paladins cross. Lead em outside.
Hey how bout that toughness boost though

[Swagnificence]

yeah one of my guys used an edgewalker paladins cross, and i have been luring them outside and now with the 2xs engagement mod im doing pretty well

[Blue Mouse]

Use maces/axes or polearms that give an attack bonus vs. robots.

EDIT:sorry I forgot that I use a bunch of weapon mods so these might not be in vanilla.

[Fatbill]

Publicado originalmente por Blue Mouse:

Use maces/axes or polearms that give an attack bonus vs. robots.

EDIT:sorry I forgot that I use a bunch of weapon mods so these might not be in vanilla.

Yeah, it is basically hackers and heavy weapons and crossbows in vanilla that really work, katana and most blunt weapons not so good, everything else, so-so.

No maces and axes in vanilla :).

[Bedelguese]

1v1 with Paladin's Cross or Long Cleavers, don't engage with more than one person as they'll hit multiple people

[Vermillion Cardinal]

I used to go with Eagle's Crosses on 2 crossbowmen. One will draw aggro (hopefully one at a time, which does happen, though occasionally two will attack instead) and run around the lab just outside the entrance. The other stays to one side and snipes. Reposition as necessary to keep up the fire and stay safe. Having an expert sniper reduces time taken.

These days however I just avoid battle entirely and send in one 100 stealth ninja at night who goes in with a large thieves backpack and loads up on ancient science books, AI cores, advanced first aid kits, and CPUs as priority items. Anything else are considered extras that can be abandoned if the security is too tight (like the one time I kept getting caught by 11+ spiders who made it hard to find a place to stay hidden).

[Arndell]

I have not played for a while as i'm waiting for the new map + decent stable brance with new map quarter.

Unless anything has changed, my method for dealing with guardians in ancient labs was to send in my robo augmented hive ninja with 100 stealth (using gear buffs).

The 100 stealth stat combined with 1 assassin leg and 1 runner leg meant he would zip around at 30mph while in stealth so could run right past / through NPC's while only turning the eye yellow before getting back behind cover.

If you are not inclined towards using quicksaves though, it's a very easy way to lose your highly trained stealth character :P Without abusing saves to get a perfect stealth run, the above methods of luring them outside to make best use of strong weapons is safest.

[killer tomato]

Fight them one on one, you can achive this by right clicking on 1 to aggro it the other normally dont follow. You can do this on the spiders for the higher levels too.

Another tip is only have 1 person attack in melee because -> They do some kind of splash damage and you can mostly avoid it if you only let one guy tank - Crossbows are you friend but you could also make your other people attack from behind.

[Zombie101]

I use my packbull and guru backup with 5 guys with CB that uses heavy bolts. Draw them out a few at a time. This will help you limit your damage to your guys. Spiders nothing to laugh at. One you KO it loot it so it be dead. That 1 vs 2+ mod can haunt you just as much it can help you.

I'm always trying keep my limbs on my guys. holy biggades are my main scource of funds for stuff I sell.

[TehOuchies]

Check which faction the spider bots belong to. The indoor and outdoor ones tend to be on different factions that are hostile with each other.